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      Here is an extract of BL50 technical guide (available on the B&O website):

       

      Appendix 1: Recommendations for Critical Listening

      14.1 Loudspeaker Configuration

      The Beolab 50 provides you with an
      extremely wide range of parameters
      that can be used to adjust the timbral
      and spatial presentation of your
      recordings for various listening rooms,
      loudspeaker placements and listening
      positions. However, it is always best to
      start with an optimal configuration in
      your listening room.

      First consider the relationship between
      the loudspeakers and the listening
      position itself. The two loudspeakers
      and the listening position should be the
      three corners of an equilateral triangle.

      This means that the distance from
      each loudspeaker to the listening
      position should be the same as the
      distance between each loudspeaker.
      This also means that the loudspeakers
      will be 30◦ away from the front, centre
      location, directly in front of the
      listening position.

      Figure 14.1: The centre of the sound
      beam in the vertical plane is level with
      the top edge of the acoustic lens when
      raised (at a height of 108.7 cm from the
      floor).

      Secondly, the two loudspeakers should
      be “toed-in” by 30◦. This means that
      they should be slightly rotated so that
      they are both facing the listening
      position. This is shown in Figure 14.2.

      Figure 14.2: A “perfect” loudspeaker
      configuration with Beolab 50’s. Both
      loudspeakers are aimed at the listening
      position. The distance from the listening position to each loudspeaker is the
      same as the distance between the two
      loudspeakers.

      If possible, the height of the listening
      chair should be set so that the
      listener’s ears are level with the centre
      of the vertical beam, shown in Figure
      14.1.

      The next consideration is symmetry
      within your listening room. It is
      commonly recognised that the best
      stereo imaging will be achieved if the
      listening configuration (the triangle
      formed with the listener and the two
      loudspeakers) is placed in left–right
      centre of the room. Therefore, the side
      walls will both be the same distance
      from the listening position, and the
      loudspeakers will have the same
      distance to its adjacent walls. This is to
      say that the distance from the left
      loudspeaker to the left wall is the same
      as the distance between the right
      loudspeaker and the right wall. The
      distance to the front wall (behind the
      loudspeakers) should be the same for
      both loudspeakers, but certainly does
      not have to be the same as the
      distance to the side walls.
      Figure 14.3: An optimal placement for
      the loudspeakers with respect to adjacent walls. Note that the distance between each loudspeaker and its closest side wall are identical, and that the
      distances from the loudspeakers to the
      front wall are also matched.
      Figure 14.4: An less-optimal placement
      for the loudspeakers with respect to adjacent walls. Note that the distances
      from the loudspeakers to the front wall
      are matched , however, the distance between each loudspeaker and its closest
      side wall are not identical.
      Figure 14.5: Another example of a lessoptimal placement for the loudspeakers with respect to adjacent walls. The
      distances from the loudspeakers to the
      front wall are matched, however, the
      right loudspeaker and lacks a side wall
      nearby.
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      in reply to: BL50 Coaxial input #49651
      YannChris
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        Thanks Mr 10%

        Yes, everything is configured as you stated. Wiim is configured to a maximum rate of 192 kHz on Coaxial out.

        I do not use Optical for this test, as this connector is limited to 96 kHz on the speakers.

        With 96 kHz file, the coaxial input works normally. With a 192 kHz file, no sound.

        The BL50s switch-on on both files.

        I checked with a brand new cable, same result.

        Kind regards,

        Yann.

         

        in reply to: BL50 Coaxial input #49656
        YannChris
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          It’s 5 meters long.

          1st test made a cable supplied with Beolab 5s, connected to the SP/DIF out of a Beocenter 2, as I had no problem with this cable with this configuration.

          So I suspected the cable and bought a brand new one, with the same lack of result.

           

           

          in reply to: BL50 Coaxial input #49653
          YannChris
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            I did, but no solution.

            Most posts on the subject are optical-related.

            🙁

            in reply to: BL50 and Core, please explain me :) #49628
            YannChris
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              Bits are bits!

              MM, that’s exactly what I think.

              But so many people are stating that Core is easily blown away by such or such 3rd streamer that I would like to understand what happens to these poor 0s and 1s 🙂

              in reply to: BL50 and Core, please explain me :) #49626
              YannChris
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                Sandyb,

                I do not plan to replace my Core for the reasons explained in my previous post.

                But I want to get the best of my 50s.

                So, if the Core has no impact on the digital flow send to the 50s, I’m happy with it.

                But if there is an impact, I may think to an hybrid system as yours.

                I tried Roon some time ago because it hosts Qobuz but did not keep it, as on long listening session the “more of the same” automatic playlist following an album was a bit boring.

                Yann.

                 

                 

                in reply to: BL50 and Core, please explain me :) #49625
                YannChris
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                  Thanks MM,

                  I agree with you for the benefits of the core in a extensive setup as mine (several rooms and products of all generations), because any product can reach the others in terms of content and control.

                  Especially with a NL/ML converter in the game.

                  In fact, I do not plan to remove it.

                  I don’t use Tidal, but Qobuz which is unfortunately not natively integrated in the app, as it has been done for Deezer.

                  I can understand that a streamer can have an impact of the sound for analog to digital conversion. But this is not my concern as all my music is stored as digital files and the Core is used as a hub for streaming and NAS access.

                  In a nutshell, the question is to know if the Core is perfectly transparent (or not) in a totally digital signal path.

                  Yann.

                   

                  in reply to: BL50 and Core, please explain me :) #49622
                  YannChris
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                    You are right, the Core replaced a few years ago a Moment used for playing music stored in the NAS and Net Radios to the rest of my setup (I was not confident in the Moment’s lifespan although it was a nice product).

                    I appreciate its integration in the B&O ecosystem (until the 5.4 version of the app).

                     

                     

                    in reply to: Bang & Olufsen App – Beta version 5.x.x. #49100
                    YannChris
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                      To Mr Andersen,

                      As an addition to MM’s answer, here is the list of sources available in one of my products.

                      My setup includes Theatre and Core, NL/ML Converter and Beocenter 2..

                      By the way, it would be great if the source list could be manually ordered.

                      Kind regards,

                      Yann.

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                      in reply to: Bang & Olufsen App – Beta version 5.x.x. #49097
                      YannChris
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                        Thanks MM,

                        I’ll wait.

                        in reply to: Bang & Olufsen App – Beta version 5.x.x. #49095
                        YannChris
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                          Hello Beoworlders,

                          A new version has been released a few days ago but did not dare to download it.

                          Did you notice any improvement?

                          Kind regards,

                          Yann.

                          in reply to: About Beolab 50 #46268
                          YannChris
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                            I agree, but I have to deal with HWMBO 🙂

                            Let’s hope that Geoff’s magic made a miracle.

                            Yann.

                            in reply to: Update Beosound Theatre 3.2.1 #48999
                            YannChris
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                              Hi Sandyb,

                              I’m also concerned if the solution they are working on is just a “gain” setting.

                              I noticed that the sound level changes tremendioulsy from one TV channel to another, so a setting based on the source will not help.

                              In my opinion, changing volume when changing the source is less annoying than changing it when changing from one channel to another.

                              So the solution which seem sto be in the pipeline is not adressing the source of the problem. It’s just a a bandage on a wooden leg.

                              BTW, how did you roll back to the previous version of firmware?

                              Kind regards,

                              Yann.

                               

                               

                               

                              in reply to: Beosound Theatre — Knowledge Base #39918
                              YannChris
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                                How to get rid of the LG Logo?

                                Thanks to Millemissen, here is the tutorial.

                                https://youtu.be/ie1241kSZDU

                                If it may help.

                                Yann.

                                in reply to: LG logo on Theater #49483
                                YannChris
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                                  Thanks 10% and MM.

                                  What about placing this trick in the Theatre Knowledge Base?

                                  Yann.

                                  in reply to: About Beolab 50 #46265
                                  YannChris
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                                    Hello Beoworlders,

                                    Done!

                                    The new setup is installed. I’m really pleased with the Theatre/50 combo.

                                    My dealer ordered for the Theatre the same black as the speaker’s one.

                                    I really appreciate the 50s, they are more directional than the 5s and the stereo image is more accurate.

                                    Connexions are as this:

                                    Theatre –> BL: Powerlink

                                    Core –> BL: Optical

                                    BS2 –> BL: SP/DIF (for CD only)

                                    No other connexion between BS2 and Core (which have been placed in the master speaker) or BL since the NL/ML converter distributes the ML sources.

                                    The only problem is volume control when listening to the core, as:

                                    • It is only possible in the app,
                                    • I have to leave the Core’s page and turn the the BL’s one to set volume.

                                    Kind regards,

                                    Yann.

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                                    in reply to: Bang & Olufsen App – Beta version 5.x.x. #49093
                                    YannChris
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                                      MM,

                                      I agree with you on the missing linked sources.

                                      In the previous versions, these sources were also missing in the Theatre but were available in the Core’s sources list.

                                      For the unused source, we need at least a way to reorganize the list in order to place them at the end.

                                      Yann.

                                      in reply to: Bang & Olufsen App – Beta version 5.x.x. #49090
                                      YannChris
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                                        MM,

                                        I can see that our setups are very close and I hope that legacy products will not be neglected in the future.

                                        Yann.

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                                        YannChris
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                                          Thanks Caropla 🙂

                                          in reply to: Bang & Olufsen App – Beta version 5.x.x. #49086
                                          YannChris
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                                            Hello Beoworlders,

                                            Well, this update is really un-user friendly.

                                            Especially when your setup mixes ML and NL products as the source selector is reduced to the utmost minimum.

                                            So I wish to roll back to the pevious version.

                                            But how to do?

                                            Have a nice sunday,

                                            Yann.

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