[Tim]

Thanks Steve for the Video.
I just wanted to add one comment.

This is a public beta program so way more reliable than a closed beta program. But it is still a beta program. Joining and updating your devices may cause products to temporarily stop working, loss of functions or just result in errors.

 

I have two devices in the beta program (one BS Level and one BS Emerge) both have Ben resetted at least 10 times over the last 12 months, had connectivity issues etc.

I would not recommend to update products with beta software if you need them daily and don‘t want to have troubles. The user experience is definitely different than the one with release candidates. But this is what the beta program is for 😉

[Tim]

Hi all,

I just opened my BeoCenter 2 and fully cleaned it. Next step is remove the sticky part of the soft paint.

It looks like the Display is a VFD Display. Looks like a new repair part is pretty expensive. I think I will stay with the “dark” one 😉

[Tim]

So I just got an update from B&O.
the Mozart Plattform is officially not supported by BeoLink Gateway. For the integration of the Mozart Plattform I had to upgrade to the BeoLiving Intelligence.

Do we have somebody on the forum who could write an unofficial driver for the Mozart Devices? Would be a nice community project that I would be willing to support 😉

[Tim]

Great the forum is back!

[Tim]

I probably open a thicket with B&O as I think officially my Mozart speakers support BeoLink.

[Tim]

So I managed to get the BeoSound Stage, BeoSound Core and BeoVision 7 to work.

i am now trying the light switches but I think I understood the logic.

The thing that won‘t work is the BeoSound Level and Emerge. Is the Motart Plattform not working with BeoLink? I can‘t see any source in the BeoLink Gateway from those devices and they don‘t show up in the BeoLiving App.

[Tim]

They are seen by the BLGW but it looks like they won’t synchronise. They are on the same network and the Beolink NL/ML is also seeing the sources. So it has to do with the BLGW. Is there something I missed?

I assigned them via Ressources to the Rooms but then can’t see the individual resources in Interfaces.

[Tim]

So i just did reset the BeoLink Gateway to completely restart the whole setup.

I found some YouTube videos with some explanations and I will follow those for the first time setup.

• First Time Setup
• System Modes
• Generic Macros
• Macros within Macros
• Programming Example

I will reach out if I have finished the first setup (hopefully this evening).

 

Btw. If I press radio on my Beo4 or BeoOne in the Living Room the B&O radio from the core starts to play on the BeoVision (IR Mode 2). SO I think I probably just need a Macro that says Press Radio on Beo4 in Living Room?

[Tim]

YannChris wrote:

Tim wrote:

is there a way to downgrade the App? This is the worst experience I made with B&O in years.

Assuming you are using ios, go to the testflight app, tap the app icon and scroll down to go to “previous builds”. Having the same problems as yours concerning Nl and ML sources routed by NL/ML converter, I rolled back to version 5.3.0.230830 57759. Before downgrading, I sent comments to the team and listed the missing sources. I suggest you to send comments too. Regards, Yann.

 

Thanks Yann

I will give TestFlight a try but honestly this sounds like nobody from b&o tested the app. If it just where the sources of the NL/ML. I miss for example b&o radio on all Mozart devices. If I played from line in before and then want to switch back to radio it is not possible to select radio.

Multiroom stopped completely to work (delays, problems in connecting, connected but no sound) . What did this update do? I currently have over 5 support tickets with b&o. I never experienced something like that in my last 20 years with b&o.

[Tim]

I did some upgrades to my BeoSounds yesterday and also updated the app.

I should have checked the forum first. Honestly nothing works anymore. I had to reset the BeoSound Level Stereo Pair two times already as it is just not working correctly and the App is just horrible.

Besides the really bad visual design and UI it really is a step back in functionality. My NL/ML Converter misses all sources. Connecting to the NL/ML doesn’t‘t work in a lot of cases. My BeoSounds are out of sync in Multitoom use one remote stopped to work, etc.

 

I honestly have never experienced such an behaviour by an update.

 

is there a way to downgrade the App? This is the worst experience I made with B&O in years.

[Tim]

Thanks for all your Help. So basically when I use a LG OLED Tv with my BeoSound Stage the whole Setup has the same user experience as using a BeoVision TV?

I am currently struggling with a Decision, whether to go with a C2 or C3 OLED as the difference seems not to be big but price difference is 500 EUR. For the Office Room the TV is not the most important thing 😉

One other thing. When I use the Setup with an integrated LG OLED, is there a way to add a projector? Something like with an HDMI splitter?

[Tim]

So C1, CX and C9 are supported but no C3?

Is this a real technical limitation or might other LG OLEDS also work?

[Tim]

I totally agree @Mr10Percent.
The biggest problem is that b&o has a very bad marketing. Actually it is non existing. The influencer stuff they do is not important for really wealthy people. They need the story and this is missing.

Every little boy dreams about owning a Porsche, Ferrari, girls dream about owning a Hermes Birkin bag. But I have never seen kids in elementary school playing that they have a b&o. This commercial actually describes what b&o needs to have success with this strategy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sWPHKU1XZU

They need kids that dream of owning the damn product.

[Tim]

I had a long conversation with my dealer today and he said he will probably close down his business in the next 12 months. He complained that already b&o‘s target group was very limited and this price increase will leave him no other choice. The other problem is that online stores sell some stuff with 30-40% rebate.

As I work a lot with the future clientel B&o has targeted and I know some brands very well that have the same target group as I work daily with them I see two problems for B&o.

1. Their future customers need to know B&o. B&O is not well known in that target group and on top they miss an amazing story. Their story is good but it is not that good that people are attracted by it. Good design is not everything 😉

2. with their descision to aim at a new segment they probably lose a big portion of old customers. And their segment is extremely small. Normally luxury brands live from two types of customers. The ones that can easily afford and those who always wanted to be part of that story.

I wish B&o all the best but in my opinion this is the wrong way. They should keep in mind they are not targeting the top 1% of people. Their new target group is the top 0,001% of people and even those only need a tv and speakers from time to time and they are way less attracted to the newest tech than the top 1%. We are mostly talking old money here.

 

p.s. I can‘t see one single German reseller who has applied the new prices 😉

[Tim]

I did a test with mine today. I have a BR1 connected to a pair of BeoSound Emerge. I can move through nearly the whole house and control it. No loss of connection etc.

probably do the whole pairing again. Do a reset of the speaker and upgrade the software. This should not happen.

[Tim]

Currently there are some good offers for b&o products in Germany.

 

BeoSound Stage – 1.172€ (Link)

BeoSound Emerge – 666€ (Link)

 

 

[Tim]

This is what I just wanted to write. I think easiest way is a splitter and control via App or AppleTV remote.

Most people including won’t probably have the right PUC installed and even if the Apple TV can learn commands you need a fitting PUC. It won’t work with the preinstalled Receiver PUCs

[Tim]

Powerful to me meant that first of all the stage is way to limited with the distance between left an right channel. Second I feel a combination of Balances has way better bass and mid tone. We had a stage here and compared it to two Bl800 with BL11 and the old setup just sounded „better“.

I heared the Balances in a store and they sounded very good compared to BL18s.

[Tim]

The other thing is I have an offer of 3.400€ for a pair of BeoSound Balance ?

[Tim]

Thanks for all of your replies. First of all we are completely prepared for the price of adding a pair of BL18 or Balances.
Our usage of the current setup we have is 90% music listening in a multipoint setup and 10% of TV. TV means basically one show of a German crime series a week and the news. So we don‘t need Atmos, 7.1, etc.

i probably give the Theatre a second chance before a price increase 😉 would it be good for 2 channel music listening?

the BS4 would be an option but honestly we don‘t want to invest in old tech.

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