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Thanks for this Carolpa, it is actually good to know that with the app all functionality is available (over wifi), we also want to try and make control with a remote as simple and logical as possible.

I tried what you asked, but before that I set the two BLCs to ‘Connect to (primary) – BeoSound Core’ in the ‘Configuration / Settings’ page.

See screenshots of the app here:

They can all be (un)ticked. Some even twice?

When in the Core I set the ‘Link to other products’ to ‘none’ – see below:

I can still see all sources of both BLCs.

What I am after (for my friend) is that I can list 2 commands (under the Music button of the BR1) that can either control/play CD from a BC2 and CD from a BS9000. Probably DVD can activate the BC2 (that than realises it has a CD loaded), but I reckon that command is only to be found under TV sources of the BR1. Which is not logical :-).

I know I am picky, and hope things are simpler than I think.

Your help is appreciated! Regards, Johan

 

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Hi B3OHACK3R, the idea is to hide the Core quite far, maybe 20m. I was hoping that the connected IR eye would allow full BR1 functionality, incl showing specifically named sources from two BLCs. It seems not. The setup will not be very complicated, and perhaps standard Beo4 source names will do (or can be renamed even).

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Hello MM, I agree the BeoRemote One is better for operating a Core. And the (standard, no BT) BR1 manual says that linked sources (in ‘my’ case from two BLCs) are visible in the source list of the remote. I am assuming they get there through 2 way IR then. I am seeking confirmation of that working with the Core and an IR eye, as the Core needs to be hidden away. Thanks! Johan

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Hello, can someone from experience tell if the IR eye for the Core provides 2-way IR communication with the BeoRemote One? I expect the Core does this, seeing below chart at ‘link sources’. I am curious to know if the IR eye does it too, when the Core is out of IR sight.

Thanks, Johan

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Hi DT79,

There was a thread here: https://archivedforum2.beoworld.ouronlineserver.com/forums/t/43589.aspx stating the MkII has Type no. 3051.

Join-Play version (8089119). The port to plug the IR eye in, can only be the DPL port I reckon?

Regards,

Johan

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I think I found the answer here: https://support.bang-olufsen.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041742571-How-do-I-activate-sources-using-BeoRemote-One-or-Beo4

A pity, I was hoping for the same flexibility as with a BLC.

Regards, Johan

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Hi MrMMMichail, that is a special remote! I doubt that the TV is ‘limited’. When you use the ‘MENU’ button, can you access and change things in the menu? Maybe you can post a picture of the menu screen, so I can compare that with my Mk3.

A big difference with a regular remote is that it misses the ‘LIST’ button, under which you can add various commands. And you said motorized stand, can you control that now?

Regards, Johan

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Great that you got it working! I know the frustration it can give. Enjoy the result. J.

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That is an impressive job! And certainly not a usual shape for an amplifier. Regards, J.

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Maybe add a tester to the order! (+ battery) They are cheap, and will give you confidence that the cabling job is good. Regards, J.

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I always thought these cabinets were cuts from an extruded profile?

J.

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Hi eprokos, two suggestions:

– when you connect the Beolab 18 directly to the Theatre, all is good?

– you could obtain a little tester (as below) to check correct continuity of all connections

I expect that the colored wires in the Powerlink cable are flexible, and the copper core inside consists of many fine strands. The ABB terminal expects one thick solid copper core inside each wire (as you have with in wall ethernet cables). The little ‘knives’ cut the isolating plastic and ‘bite’ into the solid copper core of ethernet cables. With the flexible wires of the Powerlink cable this might not work so well.

In my home I have the exact same RJ45 terminals: one close to the speaker, one close to the audio device, connected in wall with CAT7 solid core installation cable. Between the terminal and the speaker/audio device, I use a Powerlink cable. Works very well.

Hope this helps, regards, Johan

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Hello xschop, with frets I meant the cloth covered plastic speaker fronts. Nothing much to mod there I guess :-). Best of luck, regards, Johan

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Hello Eprokos, when used properly, your socket should be good.

Is the white/brown wire not missing on PIN 7? The back of the terminal is missing (here the braided shield is connected to the housing. The braided shield should not be close to where the colored wires are punched in, you risk shorts. Have a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlU2P12gDso

From the Beolink handbook 1.9, this should be the wiring schedule for PowerLink cabling:

To me it looks like you should carefully redo the wiring. Best is to use solid wire core wires. Between two wall sockets (or patch panels) you can also use good quality standard CAT7 S/FTP wiring in 568-B pinout configuration (see the top color scheme in your socket).

Regards, Johan

 

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Clean job xschop! Did you repaint the metal fronts of the drivers?

I lately refoamed these for a colleague. About time 🙂

I just touched up the metal of the drivers with a black marker as they will be playing with (freshly washed) frets.

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Madskp wrote:

Next issue the sticky black coating []

Hi Madskp, I managed to rub off the sticky coating with methylated spirit (the blue smelly stuff), and found a gloss black paint underneath. My original idea was to have the housing sandblasted and powdercoated, but I abandoned that and am happy enough with the original black (undercoating) paint. Saves quite a bit of (dis)assembly. Maybe worth a try? Regards, Johan

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Goed te horen Gertie! En graag gedaan. Fijn dat het naar behoren werkt. Ik hoop dat je nog jaren plezier van de BeoLabs hebt.

Groet, Johan

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Hi Madskp,

Is it possible that it has to do with the possibility to ‘rename’ the BeoSound 5’s N.MUSIC to CD or A.MEM? A snip from the BS5 userguide:

Though you say that it is possible to use CD and RADIO? That would make my suggestion at least inconsistent. Anyway, maybe it helps in finding the answer.

Regards, Johan

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I have not read anything in the (quite minimal) manual of the BeoPlay Connection Hub about an “A.OPT 0” or alike. I presume the fixed volume mode is supposed to act somewhat like that. But I like your idea – teaching the Hub the commands of some old random remote controller, to control it separately, and only when needed, while using the TV-controlled headphone volume output. I will give that a try before sticking black tape to the Hub :-). Keep you posted, regards, Johan

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Update – all is working… …with some hurdles!

First hurdle – when setting the (older 40″ LED) Samsung to ‘external speakers’, and using an optical Toslink connection, we found an annoyance and a problem: at every volume change request of the remote, the volume gets nicely changed, but on the screen a window opens for some seconds saying something like “You connected external speakers – use the other device to control the volume”. Not great. Furthermore, even when switched to ‘standby’ the Samsung seems to “leak” some optical noise so the Hub (and the Passive) would not turn off after 5 minutes. Also not great.
Next plan – use 3.5mm minijack stereo cable from the headphone socket. I cycled home for this cable (as the original plan was optical of course), but when I plugged it in, the TV went mad. It would hardly react to remote control input and the IR receiver were blinking like crazy! It received ‘volume down’ commands continuously somehow. I checked if no-one was sitting on a remote or something, reset the tv, took the batteries out of any remote in the house, did all kind of checks, and almost bought another TV! (maybe it was good I was on my bicycle, and postponed that moment). All to find in the end (by my brother who came over for (mental) support) that the Apple TV remote (no batteries you can take out) was just frantically sending signals as it got disconnected from the Apple TV (or whatever). That blocked the TV completely! Some googling confirmed this (some people report volume up only!) and a de/re-pairing fixed the issue. I really was thinking that by plugging in the 3.5mm minijack I messed up the electronics of the TV somehow (electric discharge from the Passive through ground or something). Phew – all was good again.
When using the headphone out of a TV (so the volume control is with the TV still), you can set the Hub to fix volume by double pressing the “multi” button at the back. The LED then goes red. You might want to play with the volume setting of the TV and the setting of the Hub to find a comfortable ‘range’.
Some other learning: when you taught the Hub the IR volume (up/down/mute) and you use the headphone out of the TV, make sure that you ‘sync’ the mute statuses of both devices! If not, one of them is in mute alternatively, and you risk having no sound and think there is a much bigger problem :-). I might tape off the Hub IR receiver to avoid this happening.
Hope this is helpful to a future Hub owner!
Regards,
Regards, Johan

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