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BeoPat wrote:

Hello everybody, I ordered BS Theater with a pair of BL28. I will use wired PL and Ethernet to BL28. In which order should I setup my system? BL28 first then BSTH or opposite?

Good question and it depends on how you use them. I would imagine that the the BL28 and Theatre integrate together anyway for music and video. As Ive mentioned previously with my BL90s (a couple of generations behind the BL28s in terms of integration) is you set your loudspeakers up first as a standalone.

Once done, set the Theatre up as Centre only, as a Surround system (Theatre/BL28) and as BL28 on its own (within the Theatre system) using the listening positions control and room-sense.

This way, I guess that if you want to use BL28 on its own with its integrated sound (or injected 3rd party sound) for music, you can do without troubling the Theatre. If your sources come via the Theatre (DNLA/Radio/Video etc..), you can chose the sound playback based on the source. For example:-

1. If I want to critically listen to music (Qobuz or my ripped library via my Auralic) I start the BL90s directly via Auralic signal trigger.
2. If I watch Live TV, the source selection, plays Centre only, Custom sound mode
3. If I listen to ripped music (lower quality) with LG Media player (via the Theatre), triggers BL90 wide mode, music sound mode.
4. If I watch Kaleidascope video (hi-Res), Bl90/BL3/Theatre triggers in movie mode

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My main loudspeakers are Beolab 90s and I also use Beolab 3s daily.

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Hereford wrote:

The C9 will work with Stage but zero funtionality with Theatre? The BeoApp on the C9 even acknowledges that a B&O product is connected.

Even more baffling? That says something is not right?

I assume you have used the B&O eARC cable and have it installed the correct way (if indicated) and checked the socket positions match?

what does the LG panel say. There is another LG app there that shows connections to the panel. Is that showing Theatre? Other than that, better get the Dealer to come and help.

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Theatre and Beolabs 28

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Found this link,

https://support.bang-olufsen.com/hc/en-us/articles/8580845032721-Which-TV-can-I-use-with-Beosound-Theatre-

Clearly says C9 is not supported and is considered a third party screen. Surprised your Dealer did not inform you?

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Beo911,

TV sound guide https://beoworld.dev.idslogic.net/forums/topic/new-product-launch-beosound-theatre/page/31/#post-12766

check out my other posts on using Listening Positions running room sense separately for centre, surround and BL90 fronts, copying the BL90 to have narrow, wide, omni presets

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My comment would be to compare both units and if you feel the panel fit is lacking quality fit, take it up with you Dealer.

Dealer May fob you off and tell you that it is normal product variation and within spec or there may be a way for a technician to come and adjust the centricity? If there is noise contact of surfaces as they on open/close, then your case is strengthened for poor QA;QC.

As you know, these are not cheap products and you are entitled to complain if not entirely satisfied at that price point.

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I’m on the G2 not C9. Different OS. I could be totally wrong?

I’m just going off the assumption that the LG Beo app is a cute way to extend the HDMI-CEC command set both devices have. Hence defferent degrees of integration for different panels. You should get some, not all commands with it being LG and I imagine the high level HDMI-CEC would be almost native to one another?

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Hereford wrote:

The BeoApp on the TV just tells me to finish the setup inside the B&O app on the iPhone.

Hi, Sorry if this comes across as patronising but Im just trying to nut-out your problem in my head. Sorry if Im being a little circular.

There are two Apps required:-

1. The LG (LG B&O App – which is loaded from LG and resides in the TV) and
2. The BeoApp which is from B&O and is on you iPad or Android phone

I assume you have these steps? The LG Panel indicates a loaded App and the LG Home Dashboard App?

I assume you have internet connected to the Theatre? Fully close your mobile device Beoapp.

Reset the Sound bar by pressing << and >> together for 8 seconds.

Dont restart the BeoApp in your mobile device until the TV and Theatre have rebooted and LEDs have stopped blinking.

The BeoApp should take you through a number of steps (buttons are pictures).

1. Press the button picture to load the LG Remote control App (this is done, but clears the button away)
2. Press pair a BR1 remote. The Theatre should auto-find and pair the BR1
3. If you have some control now, you should be up and running. Finish the Theatre setup on your mobile device.

With respect to your Dealer, I would get him involved. He made himself party to you and the Theatre the moment you sent him money and he ordered your equipment. Territory or not. He cannot be reluctant and needs to support you and he can call, email and help……rather than Beoworlders doing his job.

You paid a good deal of hard-earned cash for a flagship product. It should be perfect – including it working as well as it can for the C9 panel. Additionally, if the C9 Panel is completely non-functional with the Theatre, he should have warned you about it being non-compatible before ordering.

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yoomy wrote:

During Room Sense I hear the BL6000 loud and clear. They are in “free” setting. The distances are correct but they are very quiet compared to the Theatre itself and on lower volumes I hardly hear them at all. But maybe that is correct.

I think this is normal operation. The surrounds are for ambience and weak speakers like the 6000’s wont get a look-in over the Theatre. One operation you can experiment with is the Advance Settings in sound Modes:-

The Fader setting can be used to re-direct input signals to different output channels in your loudspeaker configuration. For example, setting the Fader all the way to the left on the display will result in signals being directed only to the speakers in your configuration that have a Speaker Role in the rear (i.e. Left Surround, Right Back etc.) Note that, if you do not have a surround configuration of loudspeakers (i.e. if you have only a Front Left and Front Right loudspeaker in your current Speaker Group) then the Fader B/F setting will not operate correctly and should be set to the middle position (the factory default setting).

The attached document – though not specific for the Theatre may help. Especially around fader and surround settings.

However, I think as you change these settings, you may end up with an experience which is no longer as optimal for the equipment you have in the system.

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The BR1 works like Beo4 in many ways but is also a different animal. Don’t expect 1 to 1 straight away. However, basic functions become intuitive very quickly.

if you have a Theatre and an LG panel, you must load the the B&O App from LG to integrate Beo control. (Halo, BR1, Essence).

The BR1 is then essentially then set up via the BeoApp, including mybuttons, TV lists, listening positions, PUC commands etc. quite a learning curve to do but once acquired, quite easy to do.

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To add….as it may make a difference, the first-time process I went through….

1. Switch-on LG Panel, Register with LG (nothing to do with B&O).
2. Download B&O LG app and execute (links Theatre to LG Panel comms)
3. Pair BR1 to Theatre via the BeoApp pairing

It may be that the C9 has issues but I cant imagine that it is non-responsive. I assume compatibility is based on the LG B&O App and mapping within the C2 and G2 models. So I assume you may not get into the weeds of the LG panel deep settings with the BR1 ,but it should communicate Theatre to LG channel and source changes.

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Have you reset the Theatre and gone through the pairing of the BR1?

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MM,

using your LG remote, hit the mute button at least 3 times in quick succession.

this brings up a dialogue box. At the bottom, there is 3 activated sliders. No.2 is the logo kill slider

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During Room Sense, Theatre + BL6000 as rear/sides, I assume you can hear both channel during the initial connectivity test?

Also, put the BL6000 in “free” setting with the switch hidden in the base.

Also, check the measured distances of the BL6000 calculated by Room Sense from your listening position. If that is also correct, then Room Sense and attenuation levels will be as intended

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So far, it looks like 2.5 to 3hrs. This depends on the file size. Typical BR discs store 66Gb, and I’m seeing 80 to 100Gb downloads on my favourite must-haves.

The latest Stratos C apparently can do it in 15 to 20minutes.

Main thing for me is the uncompressed sound. Staggering with the Theatre.

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For me, wired as much as possible.

Interesting in the Theatre and SMI design. There is no room in the theatre for cables – particularly at the base or on the top exit…and there is so much unused room inside the SMI.

 

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As per the addiction thread – I’ve just installed a Kaleidascape Server so I can get some really high quality video and some mind-blowing sound effects. Truly impressive.

Ive had a number of issues with the Theatre – not just installing the Stratos but also with the Oppo BRP. There is a bug in the BeoApp, BR1, Theatre firmware. It has caused a number of forced factory resets if you do it the “wrong” way.

Im using 3.5mm input jacks connected to the IR-in of each device, PUC A+B Lan to the Theatre.

1. When changing the PUC register, the system is sensitive to changes and can lock-up. Names in the BR1 dont get updated.
2. Adding the same PUC control to HDMI A and HDMI B locks up. (problem if you have to solve which is A and which is B. (RJ45 Pin 5/6 is A, Pin 7/8 for B)
3. Did not realise that the PUC register is extensive in the BeoApp but you cannot scroll. You have to search. Maybe what you want is in the list (DishTV S7090 PVR and Dish Generic DVR are there).
4. When applying your PUC configuration, I have found to save lock up of Theatre, BeoApp and BR1, select another source on the BR1, Live TV, then make the PUC change.
5. A reboot may be required to initiate the new config.

Will add – the Oppo works great – the Kaleidescape is still not responding but working through that one now.

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Dish Hoper?

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This would come under addiction – expensive addiction at that:

Just purchased a used Kaleidescape Stratos S 6TB Movie Player to go with my 5.1 BS Theatre combo and get the most out of the system:

Better than BR 4K video (Uncompressed Studio Video at 10 to 30% more data)

Full uncompressed sound (Raw Atmos).

Sounds frigging awesome!

 

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