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The setting PCM in the ATV means that the ATV must decode the stream – this way you won’t get any Atmos metadata….and thus no indication in the app.

If set to Auto the ATV will know what us on ‘the other end’ and will send the Atmos stream for the Stage to decode = indication in the app.

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You will always need the NL/ML Converter…..it is the bridge between ML and NL.

All ML devices will act collectively.

Since you do not want any ML connected sources (i.e. a CD player) – you just have the needed ML driver in a setup like you want to create – you will only be able to listen to sources from a NL device on one (or more of the) BL 2000.

Actually you don’t need the Essence (unless you want to connect speakers there).

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You will need the NL/ML Converter in any case.

If the Masterlink chain has no audio- or videomaster you will need the Powerbox – as far as I know the 1611 can do the same as the box.

The ML chain is connected to the NL/ML converter.

The NL/ML converter must be connected to the home network/router via a wired connection……the same network as the newer products are connected to (wire or wireless).

Everything is configured in the web interface of the NL/ML Converter and accordingly in the setup section of the NL products.

The Essence MK2 is a NL product just like the other devices in your drawing.

The center point is the NL/ML Converter!

 

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It seems to be an invitation to a physical event (for those going to/living in Berlin).

Wonder if there will be some kind of online presentation too?

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Sorry to tell you this……

….but assuming you have the first gen Avant, this seems to be the first sign of a failing video engine.

Do you see that with any source on the Avant?

It probably will get worse!

The only cure then, will be a new video engine board – please contact your/a dealer for further advice.

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Some DAC’s have different setting for the output mode.

Could it be that you’d have to change settings when using either the line out or the hp output?

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Looking forward to hear about what you’ll find out.

There is no doubt that you can adress both these parts in the app – e.g. by activating the Core/BL11 and then joining on the Level pair.

However – and that is what I meant above with “among other things” – you have no option of controlling the crossover between the BL11 and the Level. The BL11 only offers a minimum of settings there and the Level has its own ABL based bas management built in….meaning that this is variable = dependend on the SP of the device/how loud you play.
This may lead to dips or peaks in the frequency response of the setup.

However, if you can live with that or even enjoy the result – it will also very much depent on the room, where you listen and the placement of the BL11 – why not do it!

Also the handling of the playback will be somewhat inconvenient – especially if you want occasionally to move one Level to another room and back etc.
All in all not a setup that I would want……..or recommend!

This said – I hope you’ll come back to tell about your impressions in case you make the setup.

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Honestly I never thought that I should be answering such a question ?

I’d agree with the simple short post from Hiort….not possible!

The only option I could think of is – like you mentioned – adding a CCA directly to the BL11 and then create a group of all devices.
N.B. You’d need a trigger solution for the 11 as well.

However, I am pretty sure that this among other things would cause delay issues between the 11 and the Levels……but testing is better than believing.

Furthermore you would be limited to using Chromecast for streaming to the setup.

And chromecasting means using the CC function within the source app – no way to integrate the Bang & Olufsen app there!

 

The “simpler or more elegant soltion” would be to get a Core (or an Essencense MK2) and some plain Beolabs to run along with the BL11 ?

 

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Apart from maybe upgrade from 6000 to 8000, not much to improve there.

And I am not even sure that would bring ‘the significant more’, that you seem to wish for.

Only going from two channel to three – or rather to 5/5.1 channels – will boost your sound into a “more theatrical and powerfull” experience.
However, that would require some radical changes to the setup.

The current setup seems to be a decent solution……..if you can live without a center channel.

What is it that you are missing now?

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At some point there was a change…

It is possible to set up a B&O device without using the Google path.

See this:

https://support.bang-olufsen.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041130412-How-do-I-set-up-Beosound-Stage-without-a-Google-account-

By the way – one of the biggest drawbacks using a GVA product is, that you are not able to use the line-in connection as you please…..but that is another theme.

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Interesting….worth investigating!

Anyone with a MK1 here to test it?

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Have you tried to disconnect both and reconnect?

Tried pulling out the ML cable (sorry, I know that is cumbersome)?

Please do check the ML wire.

Do you have a junction (box) somewhere along the way?

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Sure….that is well known (amongst those in need of datalink).
In retrospect it is a pity, now that the Beogram/vinyl players have become so popular.

If you don’t need Masterlink, you could however, use the Phono socket on one of the older Beomasters (3500/4500/6500/7000 etc).

Also see:

https://www.beoworld.ouronlineserver.com/article_view.asp?id=64

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Part of understanding this is the wish to take part in the big current market for headphones – homeworking.

https://press.bang-olufsen.com/d/gKpSDxqk8eyT/news#/august-2022/bang-olufsen-to-win-hybrid-workers-with-microsoft-teams-and-zoom

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None has datalink – as far as I know.

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Maybe you are right….or the design is similar!

P.S.

This is the source of the picture:

BANG OLUFSEN BEOPLAY 500 Wireless Active Noise Cancellation Over Ear Headphones User Guide

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Yet another pair of headphones.

Fairly easy to find a picture on the internet.

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Ich stimme trackbeo zu – der BV11 hat das beste von beiden.

Von den zweien wäre V1 meine Wahl……übrigens – ich finde den nicht ‘ugly’.

Aber wenn du noch Masterlink-basierte Audioprodukte hast – und die unbedingt behalten möchtest – wäre BV10 schon noch zu überlegen.
Mit eksternen Lautsprechern angesclossen gibt es eine gute lösung.

Das grösste Problem da meiner Meinung nach ist, daß eine PUC-lösung (für Steuerung von externen Geräten z.B AppleTV) nur durch ein Update vom Techniker möglich ist.
Aber vielleicht reicht dir ein Chromecast-dongle.

Das ist alles viel einfacher mit dem V1.
(Der hat auch noch Netradio eingebaut).

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Hi yael and welcome to the forum.

You could start reading this thread from the old forum:

https://archivedforum2.beoworld.ouronlineserver.com/forums/p/6533/91292.aspx#91292

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Hallo Matthias

Eigentlich gibt es 2 Möglichkeiten.

1: die kompliciertere und bessere.
Du brauchst einen (B&O) ML/NL Konverter um deinen BM7000 bzw den Masterlink Konverter mit einem NL-basierten Setup (Eclipse und eventuelle andere NL-Lautsprecher im Setup) zu verbinden.

So kannst du den BM7000 inclusive Beogram ungefährt so bedienen wie vorher mit dem BV10.

2: die einfachere/günstigere, aber nicht so bequeme Lösung.
Ein (DIN-)Kabel vom BM7000/A.Aux oder auch vom PL zu Minijack/Line-Eingang am Sound Center/Eclipse.
Hierbei wird einfach das, was am BM7000 abgespielt werden über die Lautsprecher/Eclipse, hörbar. Die Quelle/BM7000 muß manuell/Beo4 ausgewählt/kontrolliert werden. Die Laustärkeregelung erfolgt über den Eclipse.

2a: falls es dir nur um den Plattenspieler geht, könntest du einfach diesen mittels Adapter DIN zu Minijack mit dem Line-Eingang am Soundcenter verbinden (der BM7000 wird dann nicht benötigt).
Der Beogram muß mauell bedient werden/Lautstärkeregelung über Eclipse.

 

Hoffentlich hilft dies ein wenig!

 

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