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I want a virtual bottle opener…..to open my virtual beer.

M?M

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Congrats on that.

I guess not just I would want to hear what was wrong and how it was sorted!

MM

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@Corolpa

You are – of course – right.

However, I already have the LC’s (and spare oldfashioned bulbs).
The problem there is the power consumption and the fact that, if – and when – I move to a Theatre setup from my current, beloved livingroom Avant 1st gen setup, I will have to make the move from ir to bt as well.

Actually I have and need only 3 scenes plus the manual dimming – Light 1,2,3 and Up/Down – in that room.
I do not need – nor want – all of the extras/all the automation stuff, that the BLI offers…..I just want to control my light with the Beoremote, period!
For this I will have to buy the – for this purpose rather expensive – BLI and spend time programming the thing, which I am sure I can…but would rather avoid doing.

After reading the kind answers here and the documentions so far, I see that there is no easier way.

Thanks for the tip getting a preused BL Gateway!

Will see what happens ? I will report back here.

Edit!
Do I understand it correct…..if I use the Beolink Gateway, I could avoid using the second NL/ML Converter, that I am just about to install.
Or do I need the (second) converter as well?
I have ML products/Master and CD, that I want to be able to use along with my NL devices.

MM

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Should not be hard to find – it is a pretty good tv….when you do not want the latest 4K/Atmos thing.

MM

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I have spotted a used Beolink Gateway – however, it is located far from here.

Also I found the documentation on the gateway online – that seemed more complete and informative to me than what I have found on the BLI.

Not much difference in the setup as I see it, though.

I wonder what the differences are – and if these differences will be important to me.

Maybe – in my case with the ML master/s and the converter/s in the mix – the Gateway might be the better choice?

Please pardon me my ignorance on this subject. Home automation wasn’t and still isn’t my thing – I do this just because of the change in the light controlling. (On the other hand….learning new things is never a bad idea).

So please keep on posting your hints and thoughts – these might also help other ‘newcomers’ to light/home automation controlling.

MM

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I guess there is an option there to gain access to the PUCodes stored at B&O like with all other newer/networked BV’s….just do a search.
There is no list stored on the device per default.

I hope this answers your question.

MM

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The Beolink Converter NL/ML is a bridge between the networklinked products and a masterlinked product in a Beolink setup.
However – if you connect (active) speakers to it – it can also be used ‘on it’s own’….this way giving access to the networked devices in the setup.

I’d say that this is way to complicated for someone, who is not familiar with Beolink etc.

Therefore my preference would be the BS Essence MK2 or the BS Core.

MM

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Thank you guys!

I knew you’d be able to help – I had hoped for it to come ?

Now I have something to study – I guess I’ll have to play with the BLI, before I really understand it.

It is a pity that one has to buy an expensive device/the BLI just because you want to (read: have to) exchange your old bulbs and you still want to use the one and only Beoremote.
But I also see the reasons why this so!

Life was so easy with the old Light Controls (I have had mine for 20 + years) ?

MM

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Peter the Biker wrote:

Do you remember the outcry around the world, as B&O produced a bottle opener? The designer should not have waisted so much time for a me-too-product. There were enough bottle openers in the market. SCNR (Sorry, could not resist)

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The B&O bottle opener was made by Holger Krogh – who worked in the production in Struer – just for fun…….one might say that he also was the designer!

Afterwards it was decided to make more of them – a nice ‘take-away’, when visitors were at the factory, by the way.
So why not package it and let the dealers give them to their costumers.

Probably this has cost the company very little – apart from the 50 DKK that Holger became from B&O back in 1937.

MM

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Only way I see, is to have an Essence MK2 or a Core connected to the line-in of the A8.

MM

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Nice to hear!

Is that the silver one – it seems rather dark?
To my knowledge the anthrasite version has not yet been released.

Are you going to use the 18’s in the back/as surrounds?

MM

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Oh well, maybe I just do not understand it?

I thought that the core capabilities of the company/Bang & Olufsen are Sound, Design & Craftsmanship.

Seems there is more ?

MM

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There aren’t many speakers from the current collection to be offered.
Sure they could have recommended the 18’s (many shops use these).

They probably would have used the Mozart-based speakers, if the SW had already been finished for this – and the component supply would be better.

One should not expect B&O to showcase a new product with older, EOL speakers. Of course they want to show the speakers that they actually sell.

I guess the reason why the let the Theatre do the front alone is, 1: it is capable and 2: adding front speaker would draw the attention from the soundbar, when showcasing.
They know what the Theatre is capable of and want to sell it this way.

I am pretty sure that any of the older speaker will perform excellent when added to the Theatre – probably even better that now.
For my part I plan to keep my setup/speaker layout as is, when I move to the Theatre. I guess many with a current setup will do the same.

So, just wait for some real life user reviews here, when people get their Theatres delievered……and the first SW quirks are over.

MM

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I can not present a complete list.

However, if you start with the Beoplay V1, BV11, the Essence MK2, the BS Moment…..everything thereafter, that is network based, will support NetworkLink.
I’d say, that the NL/ML Converter also is in this category.

MM

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Beozip wrote:

B&O upgradet 5 produkts for the smart home standart “matter” ….. sorry, only in german https://hifi.de/news/matter-kommt-ins-rollen-bang-olufsen-ruestet-fuenf-produkte-nach-113772

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English readers only – use this link:

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1665035559

MM

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Agree with Guy.

The simplest thing would be to add an Essence MK2 – if you can get one.
Otherweise you’ll need the Core.
In this case you do not need the NL/ML Converter…..just your home network. Best use wired connection – be sure that your wireless network is working properly, in case you’d want to go for wifi.
This solution also offers you the option of using the sources of the Essence MK2/Core through your Beosystem 4 setup.

Please be aware that the Passive will need a special configured PL cable in order to turn on/off, when the PL/RJ45 from the Essence/Core is used.
You can contact Steve@SoundsHeavenly for further advice on cables – maybe someone can share the pin layout, if you want to DIY.

 

If you’d want to use NL/ML Converter solution – in order to keep your existing ML structure – you would also need an (ML-) Audiomaster in the ML chain or the socalled Powerbox, that can be used with the NL/ML Converter.
More about this later, if you should choose to go that route.

 

MM

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Frog wrote:

It’s a shame that B&O haven’t got a solution to receive NL (wired or wirelessly) – then output to a pair of passive speakers. Passive speakers – specially ones like Beovox 1 are relatively safe against humidity, so make ideal use for bathrooms.

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That is basicly what B&O does with the Shape.
They put a BS Core, an amplifier and some passive speakers in a fancy package….just as an example.

As Guy already wrote:

“If you are happy to keep using the BeoLink Passive to drive your speakers then there is no need to change.There is no specific need to keep ML. Simply use the Beolink Passive’s PowerLink input and treat this as you would any other Active speaker.

If you need separate control of the bathroom speakers, then add an NL source with a Powerlink output.“

The Passive is here only used as an amplifier – the ir-eye has no function here.
You’d need a Beoremote One/BT to control the Essence/Core.
That is…..you could install the ir-eye, that fits with the Essence/Core and this way control this with an ir-remote/Beo4 or locally.

MM

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It is always nice to have all informations, if you are requested to give an advice.

Knowing what we know now….I am sure that you’d need the NL/ML Converter in order to bridge the Beosystem 4 (and other NL devices) with your existing ML setup/the BS5.

 

Humidity might be a problem, yes – but will that be different than now.
Bridging with the Converter would give you some new possibilities in the setup….which a standalone Essence would not.

Here is an example:

 

By the way – what do you mean by “the wired remote control to switch on/off.”

MM

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That is a good question – especially if you think of a home cinema setup with a projector and e.g. an ATV4 box (and a bluray player) as the source/s.

My guess is that it will work – however I’d like that to be confirmed too.

MM

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How is the setup, that you’d like to create?

What do you already have and which NL-based devices do you have or want to use?

MM

 

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