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No problem in posting qustions – I guess all interested forum members can learn when other people post questions and (maybe) also get answers.

You may perceive the sound from your 5’s – as well as from the entire setup – as different from before….exactly because the BS Theatre takes all speakers and the room in account.

Most people say that they think their speakers sound better when connected to the Theatre – however, better/worse is a very personal matter.

With the Theatre you have lots of options to tweak the sound to your own liking, should you not be satisfied.
I’d suggest to make more listening positions with the same speaker configuration, location etc and then tweak one of those in order to make comparisons.

MM

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“When you say it is inconvenient to switch between IR and BT, do you mean this act of having to tell the remote which device you wish to control?”

Yes, that is what I meant!

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The ir sensor of the BV11 is located at the top righ of the frame.

As for ir controlling of the Fire I have no personal experience and a google search does not bring any clarity.
Furthermore there might be different versions of the Fire device with different specs and different remotes?
This might be the explanation for the PUC entry for the Cube in the BV11 settings (??)

If your concern is, whether you may be able to control the BV using the Cube/remote/the built-in ir blaster function, you will not have any luck as Madskp already wrote.

Since there is no HDMI/CEC on the BV11, you’ll probably end up with two remotes.

MM

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XavierItzmann wrote:

……, but I observe that Beo4 can only control the devices on the right-hand side of the picture below, and not on the left. Is there a remote able to control both the left and the right on the picture? Perhaps a Beoremote 1 with BT?

You are right – no IR for the A6.
You could get the BROne/BT (which also has ir).
However, I find/found it inconvenient to have to switch from ir to bt mode for this.
Despite the costs, I would rather recomment having two remotes (a BROne/BT and a Beo4/navi) – especially if you have two seperate rooms.
If you happen to have an older mobile phone laying around, that you do not use anymore, you could use that – with the Bang & Olufsen app installed – as a remote for the A6.

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@Sandyb

Maybe they count on these HWNI’s buying their stuff only as decor in their houses…..they’ll never notice the flaws ?

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Excellent – thank you!

MM

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From the factory the BT is always open to connect.
You can turn this off in the settings of the device.
However, this makes it a bit more ‘complicated’, when you want to use that function yourself.

By the way, how often do you use BT with the Beosound Core, which is a network device and has several other ways to be used.
If seldom – or even never – you can deactivate BT there (at least there).

Maybe the best way would be to talk with your neighbours, invite them over to show how annoying it is, when someone else suddently starts playing music in your house.

MM

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milva1 wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

That is not a flagship. It is just a modded turntable with a Core and the 28’s in a – admitted – beatifully crafted cabinet. Something for very few people with loads of money to spend on nostalgia (for some probably even just as an investment). Why so much efford on keeping an an inferior reproduction medium alive – I don’t get it?

Is Beogram 4002 really an inferior reproduction medium? Maybe there are different opinions out there?

https://www.hifinews.com/content/bo-beogram-4002-turntable

I did not write anything about the BG4002 being a bad/inferior turntable – in fact it is excellent (and better that most).
What I wrote is, that the medium vinyl record is inferior to what we can achieve nowadays….has been since the CD came in 1982.

Some may like what the vinyl media brings, but in my opinion a company that makes several outstanding speakers, should rather concentrate on making new digital based solutions.

That said – the 72-23 is a gem…..but a gem that only very, very few can afford and as such just a show off product.
People who prefer vinyl playback already have lots of options.

MM

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Usually the Avant from 2017 would be a MK2 also called the NG.
And sure….the MK1 often has problems with the DVE/mainboard, but as far as I know the issues with the MK2 are more related to the panel.

Buying an Avant MK2 one should know, that it is based on an older Android platform – using SmartTV functions there is best done with an external box like the AppleTV.

The prices for the MK2 are higher than for the MK1 – a newer device.
As for actual prices in your area, I have no idea.

MM

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Ingo wrote:

A question on the side: if I have selected a speaker group and then go back to theatre alone, that takes me quite a long time, so about 15 seconds, is that the same for you?

Yes, there is still a bug there!

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Steve at Sounds Heavenly wrote:

Hi MM, I agree that this product isn’t for everyone, but getting high-end, exclusive products into luxury homes will be the key to keeping B&O alive for the future, so they can keep on making things that us Beofans all want to buy for many years to come. This Beosystem includes the highlights of B&O’s product range from the past 50 years, made into a unique and stylish system that would grace any luxury villa or royal palace. I can’t afford this setup, but I can still dream… ? Kind regards, Steve.

I am not so sure that this is so?
They’d have to show me some figures to prove that!

No, they will have to come up with something new ‘that us Beofans all want to buy for many years to come’, if they want to survive.

MM

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Dillen wrote:

How much future potential does a flatscreen TV have – flagship or otherwise? 10 years? 25? 50?

Martin

That flatscreen tv is just an exchangeable screen.
I was ‘pointing’ – like Jakob actually is – at the BS Theatre.
I could even – if I wanted so – connect my old Beogram 2202 there, for occasional playback of one of my vinyl LP’s.

MM

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That is not a flagship.
It is just a modded turntable with a Core and the 28’s in a – admitted – beatifully crafted cabinet.

Something for very few people with loads of money to spend on nostalgia (for some probably even just as an investment).

Why so much efford on keeping an an inferior reproduction medium alive – I don’t get it?

This is how a flagship looks – something that has future potential and something that a lot of people can have in their homes:

Sorry, Steve – but thanks for the video anyway.

MM

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This is it:

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@Steve

I hope you are right in your math!

By the way, this is what was in the Newsletter from B&O 3 weeks ago – no talk of new flagship:

”Bang & Olufsen is pleased to announce the release of the limited-edition Beosystem 72-23 Nordic Dawn – a time transcending music system that connects the years 1972 and 2023 by merging immersive music experiences from both vinyl and digital streaming. The limited-edition consists of only 100 units, each engraved with a unique identification number.

“The Beosystem 72-23 is a testament to Bang & Olufsen’s dedication to extending the longevity of products in the consumer electronics industry”, says Mads Kogsgaard Hansen, Head of Product Circularity at Bang & Olufsen. “As part of the Recreated Classics Initiative, the Beosystem 72-23 Nordic Dawn Limited Edition symbolises a new beginning for a future where audio products are designed to last, where luxury is expert craftsmanship that expands beyond the first lifecycle, and where connectivity can be timeless”.”

The press release about this limited bespoke edition can be found HERE

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AdamS wrote:

Oooh, count me intrigued as that looks suspiciously like a record cleaning brush!

Oooh, no ?
They are running out of ideas….in that case.

MM

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Looking forward to read about the progress.

Nice project – I might even dig out my old A3 to try the same.

MM

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Sandyb wrote:

interesting of course, but not sure if it addresses the original question though.

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No, not directly – but it explains how the True Image processing compared to the Direct Mode works.

Basicly the True Image leaves the incoming signal untouched, if the speaker layout matches the incoming signal (as it always has done).

This means, that – if you use Direct Mode and there are more ‘channels’ coming in than your speaker setup provides – you might loose some information.

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As for comparing sound from the ATV device with that of the ATV app/LG tv….I find it hard to do such ‘A/B testing’ – there are too many variables in the game. Since I never use the apps on the LG, I can hardly comment on the original question of the thread.

MM

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