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matador wrote:

Hi, B3OHACK3R.

That’s seems indeed very cool and beautifully made. For once, the box is stylish and everything looks so professional, even the main board, for a personal “why not” project.
Then just take Millmissen suspicions as a compliment!

Sure my comment can be read as a compliment!

However this seemed to good to be true and the remark that it was not intended to be a buyable product irritated me.
Maybe because I am more the rational kind of guy…..if you make something like that, it must be useable (for more than one person = the maker).

Why not present this project (which seems to be a finished product) with some kind of calculation for selling costs/price, if so and so many people would be interested etc etc?
That is something that I could relate to.

Another take would be to use your skills for a more modest product, like what matador describes.
I guess there should be plenty of demand/plenty of interested users/buyers for something like that.

It is hard for me to say anything to the presented project….other than that it is cool!
Lots of respect for that!

Personally I am satisfied with what can be done with my NL/ML Converter/s…..in the real world.

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That was a guy (a former B&O employee by the way), who had made ‘a product with great commercial potential’ and was willing to offer that product to the world, risking his investments.

That he was not aware of the rules of the forum, is another thing….that I must admit.

None the less he makes interesting products, that surely might be interesting for the Beoworld members.

Sorry for this hick-up….I just couldn’t help it.
Enough for now!

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The grumpy cat thinks this discussion – a product with great commercial potential’ and being willing to offer that product to the world – is a bit lukewarm, given that the maker of these products was more or less banned from this forum.

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According to my Testflight it is this:

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Seems you get only the internal physical sources with the new beta.
And not the built-in like Netradio etc……….I wonder if these are the mysterious “non-deterministic” sources ;-(

With the Theatre you also get the sources of the LG-tv.

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YannChris wrote:

In a nutshell, the question is to know if the Core is perfectly transparent (or not) in a totally digital signal path.

 

Bits are bits!

The big question is, what happens in the streamer before the data is handed out through the digital output?
I know of no tests on this with the Core.

This will be very hard to find out – mainly because the companies probably keep their ‘special sauce’ secret……upsamplig, resampling etc etc.

Generally Archimago’s Musings is a great resource, if you want ‘a more objective and rational take’ on things……I searched for ‘DACS’ there.

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There are different opinions on this matter.

Personally I am one of those who without hesitation would recomment the Beosound Core…..especially if you use the digital output of it to connect to the digital-in of the 50’s – as in your case.

Different digital audio streamers may sound different – every company has some kind of signature to their products.
It will be very hard to compare these directly in real life, but only then you could find out, whether you’d prefer one over another.

Some even prefer to use the analog out of a streamer, because of the flavouring, special filter settings (often called ‘quality’) of the DAC inside the specific product.

Then there is the aspect of the user interface (the looks and how easy it is do acchieve what you want) and the support for streaming services and file formats (maybe also considering ROON support).
This may be worth investigating.
Maybe even more for those who have a standalone setup with the 50’s or 90’s.

Personally I would stick to the Core, if the Core also will be integrated in a B&O multiroom setup.
IMO the user interface (including the option of using the Beoremote) is also worth it, when deciding for the Core.

From your other posts it seems that you – in addition to the NAS based files – use Tidal Connect, which nowadays is supported by the BS Core.

Why not just use the Core – since you already have it – to see, if you like it.
I’d also recomment using an iPad/Mini dedicated to the job.

Should you want to do some experiments with other streamers, be prepared for some work – comparing streamers is troublesome.
And watch out for the experience of other beoworlders in a similar situation as you.

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Hmmm!

Quoted from the website:
“There is currently no intention from our side to sell this device as a product to individuals.”

What is the point of presenting this project/product here…..other than showcasing how clever you are – and to draw attention to the company behind: PolyVection?

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MrAndersen wrote:

Dear community I have been reading your latest complaints and can tell we’re still not quite there. We still have some missing items in the source menu and I will look into bringing the essential ones back for you.
MM if I could ask you to post a list of the ones you are missing?
All the best Thomas, Bang & Olufsen

Sure, although it should be obvious from my postings/the pictures on the previous page #24530/32

But here goes again.
The example is my M5.
As you see, that has two linked products:

Which means that – depending in which sources from these you have ticked in the ‘lokal liste’ – they can show up in the list using the 3 dots (in the previous app version)

(Please note that the list was too long for one screenshot).

So – even if there are some items there, that I haven’t asked for – I can access the local and the linked sources from the app…..and from the Beoremote of course.

With the new app it looks like this, when pushing the now arrow.

I am sure you will understand why I have rolled back to the previous beta version on my main iPad (for testing the new beta I have that installed on a secondary iPad).

 

As mentioned earlier, I am aware that you – as of now – can not link products to the Theatre (or to any other Mozart product for that matter).
Which means that linked sources (e.g. my CD player through the Converter) will not show up there.
But this is another – not directly app related – problem!

For the Theatre it looks like this with the new beta app:

And with the old beta:

In my case I use only sources of the Theatre, those connected through the Theatre/HDMI, as well as the tuner and the media player of the LG.
These are visible in the old app.
In the new I have lots of ‘things’, I haven’t asked for/do not need there.

Feel free to ask for more details.
And thank you for participating in this thread ?

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Mr10Percent wrote:

Edit: I think if they had displayed this type of panel with a revised Harmony design, then that could have potential? The TV works as it works but when in standby or sound mode, the turned-in panels of the Speakers with a transparent screen would make the Harmony far more discreet in the home against a wall?

I agree on that – would be nice to see…..as a concept.

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I rolled the beta on main iPad back to the previous version, but have the new on another iPad.
It is still not good enough to use in my setup (with the NL/ML Converter/ML sources).

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Lets hear how you get along, you and the BM5…please!

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Pontios wrote:
‘Anyone knows how to access the service menu indicated in the manual’

Well, it has been a long time since I last fiddled with this.

But this is the full description for how to….

However, I am not sure if that will help you – do you use a wired network connection?

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If the red standby light on the LG tv bothers you, here is how to disable it.

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As far as I remember there is a setting for the digital output of the Core for ‘fixed’ or ‘variable’.
The variable setting should allow the volume control of the sources of the core (via remote or app).

Nice setup that one, indeed ?

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? That would be worth trying out!

However, I would not recommend having long cable runs in that case.

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Alternatively you can use the analog-out and connect that to the analog-in on the Transmitter.

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The new Steven Wilson album.

I bought the standalone Blu Ray disc primarily because I wanted to listen to this album in lossless Atmos.

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Wait a minute…
….the Core and the A9 can both be part of a B&O multiroom setup – of course the Core also need the speakers.
If one wants to stream from external to these devices, it is possible via Airplay 2 or Chromecast (depending on ones priorities) – e.g. for Tidal and Apple Music. The B&O devices also support Tidal Connect with the recent update.
You can use B&O Radio and the built-in sources on both and let the second join the first, if you have already started playback.

 

The big question here is how to make the cable management, if you prefer the physical connection.
Since there is no PL-out in the 19 and only one PL-out in the Core, you will have to use a splitter (and do the bas management via the controls on the BL19). All doable, but needs to be well planned.

Sure, the easier way would be to go wireless/WiSA.
However you will then need a Transmitter 1 https://bangolufsenassistentgohe.blob.core.windows.net/manuals/APPS_AND_ACCESSORIES/BEOLAB_TRANSMITTER_1/3511267_1310_UG_BeoLab_Transmitter_1_v1_3_Web.pdf

And – as mentioned – WiSA is not everywhere the optimal solution.

I know of no B&O device – apart from the Beovisions/BS Theatre – that has WiSA built-in……stay away from the BS Moment, please.

It should be possible to use the Ever Solo as a player for the BL17/19-Transmitter combo – toslink out and toslink in.
But you will not be able to stream from the Solo to the A9.
You can stream from extern (via a mobile device) using Airplay2 or Tidal Connect to either one or to both.

I am not sure how the volume control on the Ever Solo using toslink out will work???
Using the BS Core it is much easier, when it comes to volume control….just use the B&O app and/or the Beoremote One.

Hope this helps a bit.

MM

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