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- 7 November 2023 at 02:19 in reply to: How disconnect multiroom on Beosound Essence and remote #50280
Hi gumbots
Actually you have ‘a Beolink multiroom’.
Your two devices – Stage and Essence – do build a B&O network assuming they are on the same home network.But why do you want to disconnect?
MM
Screenshot please?
Guessing……..’Essence MK1’ must be the first version – the one that was (and still isn’t) NetworkLink compatiple.
Then the ‘Essence’ must be the later/the MK2, which can be part of the Beolink multiroom setup.P.S
No idea of how the Android version of the app works.However, trying to set up a device should reveal which device you actually have.
MM
Keine Probleme hier.
Dies ist mit neuer App und einer Essence MK2.
MM
Why not just connect the Note/the WiiM to the line-in of the Moment?
I suppose that the Moment has auto sense there just like other newer products.MM
5 November 2023 at 12:39 in reply to: BEOMASTER 5500 – Connecting a WiiM Pro Plus to Pre-Outs? #50108I got interested in this because there was something, that I did not know of ?
The fact that there is a function, called AirPlay 2 Casting is interesting.
Seems that noone else has implemented this in a device.
It is interesting, because it offers new possibilities for those who have a ‘mixed setup’, a setup that involves AirPlay capable speakers/devices.Not that I need it!
It has been possible for many years to distribute AirPlay in a (B&O) NL network – I have done that since the update for the ASE products back then.
That is Beolink!Note: My setup is based purely on B&O products.
It works like this – start playback via AirPlay to one of your devices (in this example: iPad to ‘Essence i spisestuen’) and then simply add others in the B&O app or Join In via the remote/the local control on the wanted device.As you can see, I started the playback/using AirPlay to one of my Essence 2 boxes and then added further devices in the app – they all play in sync……my trusted old V1 tv even displays the title track etc.
I can pause/skip tracks from everywhere, add or remove rooms as I please.In my setup I also have my old Beosystem 6500 (now only Master and CD and an Essence box on the A.Tape)
I can play e.g. CD’s (including starting/controlling the playback from any ASE product-based room in the house.
(The newer Mozart-based devices behave a bit different with this).
That has been possible since B&O made the NL/ML Converter many years ago.Another possibility – if you do not want or can involve the NL/ML Converter – would be to do as I have done with one of my M3’s.
The M3 has a line-in connection with autosence, which means that starting any audio connected there (in my scenario it is a turntable/pladespilleren) will make it possible to distribute that sound via Beolink Multiroom to all other devices/rooms in the house.
Potentially one could connect the output of a BM5500 (as in the original post) or any Beosound/system with the option of sending a line-out signal there.I am describing this to show what is and has bin possible for quite a while in a B&O setup!
It works flawless and offers a rather intuitive control of the playback/the devices.Maybe this can be an inspiration for some of the readers here.
And maybe you could even combine this with this newly found option of distributing sound via AirPlay Casting – in the WiiM – for those who (also) have pure AirPlay-based devices (like the APE) in their setup.MM
5 November 2023 at 12:03 in reply to: Help!! Just bought house with 11 MCL speakers/transceivers #50204This is how a MCL-based works……just to give you a sense of what you have there.
A (only one) MCL-compatiple central Beomaster (like the BM4500/6500) is needed to ‘power’ the units/speakers in the respective room….assuming that the installation is still good.
You could connect the output of any streaming device to e.g. the A.Tape input port of the Beomaster.
Activating this in the respective rooms – one, more or all – and sending sound to the streamer will give you sound/music there. You can use either the unmute button on the small receiver panel or the B&O remote control, (which also gives volume control).
This was the second multiroom setup from Bang & Olufsen – from back in the 1980’s.Only one source at the time possible – no possibility for different music in different rooms.
If you can live with this, it will still work.
If not……..better think of other options!MM
First of all you will need an A/V receiver with a pre-out section – alternatively a pure multichannel preamp (these are not as common and tend to be more expensive).
Since you have speakers with their own amps (Beolabs), you need an audio processor with unamplified outputs for at least the L/R/(C)/Sub channels.You will have to connect the Transmitter to that.
See this guide for howto.Furthermore you will need an additional Beolab as the center channel.
Alternatively you might also be able to use the powered (center speaker) outputs of an A/V receiver for feeding the built-in Sony speaker.Be prepared for some hassle setting this up!
Once set up you might be able to use the Sony remote for volume control and other basic controls (CEC makes that possible).The Core will not fit in there – but most modern A/V receivers have support for various music streaming sources.
Also the extractor will not be needed.Not ‘that much B&O’ left there……apart from the BL18/19.
Only option to integrate the functions of the Core is to get a newer B&O television (in which case you won’t need the Core any more….these functions are built-in to the BV).
If you want to keep the Sony, the only option is the Beosound Theatre.
With the Theatre however, the better choice will be to go for an LG tv.MM
Using the Sony speakers as a center channel is a nice idea…..if you have an A/V receiver – or rather an audio processor, that can provide the center channel signal.
This is not the case with the Core, since this is a 2 channel (aka stereo) device.
You can – as you know – use the Core with the extractor and the tv.
But you must rely on the phantom center channel, that is created, when you sit right in front and centric of the speakers equaly positioned on either side of the tv.
You will never have a dedicated center channel this way!This goes for all brands of tv’s.
MM
….und die 6000 sollten – mittels Dipschalter im Anschlussfeld – L respectively R sein (linker/rechter Lautsprecher).
MM
That is highly interesting – thanks and congratulations on the result.
I see the benefits of using the 5500 and the panel, but it would potentially work with any B&O master/system with a datalink-based A.Tape input port…..as I assume.
Will be interesting to hear how high the costs will be and how many ‘subscibers’ you’d need, befor starting making a batch.
P.S.
The video is ok!MM
3 November 2023 at 10:51 in reply to: BEOMASTER 5500 – Connecting a WiiM Pro Plus to Pre-Outs? #50104It’s bin a while since I played with a WiiM device (that was the WiiM Mini) and the WiiM software/app.
Does this actually means that – assuming ‘Entrée ligne’ means the line-in port there – that it/the WiiM Pro Plus can act as an AirPlay sender?
If that is correct that device would be helpfull for anyone with a turntable (or a CD player) and wanting to distribute the sound via AP2 – it would be worth it just for that purpose.
Does the ‘Line-in’ have autosense?Or do I misunderstand your post?
MM
Edit:
I might have found the answer to my questionand
Seems to be a function called ‘AirPlay 2 Cast’….which is new to me.
And this is for the question about autosense:
Will have to investigate more tomorrow.
3 November 2023 at 08:14 in reply to: BEOMASTER 5500 – Connecting a WiiM Pro Plus to Pre-Outs? #50102I am not aware that the WiiM can distribute the line-in signal via Airplay.
Are you sure of that?
As far as I know it is a AP receiver.
It can distribute sound to other WiiM devices
But then you would require a WiiM device connected to the BL6000’s….instead of an APE.Please correct me if I am wrong!
MM
MMSpecs aside – maybe these two videos from Steve@SoundsHeavenly can help.
MM
I understand that you want to get the sound from a tv – but how do you plan to connect those Beolabs?
MM
….turn off automatic updates!!
Sure you can turn off the auto update of the beta, but only untill the older ones expires.
How do you turn off auto updates of the regular app is the more important thing – should you be lucky enough to have a device with a running 5.3.From the settings/iOS
MMIt seems that they are either totally ignoring the users with older gear (through the converter) in their setup…..
……or they are letting us wait and wait for something to change.I think it is time for them to tell us where they are heading.
MM
I did that at some point with my (then) Avant 1st gen….just for fun.
But switched back to using my surrounds again.
People should not be shy of trying out things – no harm done, you can always return to what you had before.
P.S.
The BST as the ‘motor’ has made experimenting much easier.For instance I have ‘the triangle’ as one of my listening positions…..mostly for demonstrating for friends how well that works.
MMUnless the testflight 5.3 should be delayed (which I do not think will happen), the only way to keep the (regular) 5.3 will be to use an older iDevice (pre iOS14).
It seems that the 5.4 version requires a later iOS version.
MM
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