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Hi, B3OHACK3R.
That’s seems indeed very cool and beautifully made. For once, the box is stylish and everything looks so professional, even the main board, for a personal “why not” project.
Then just take Millmissen suspicions as a compliment!That said, it seems you have all the knowledge to make something a lot of people want since forever: just a simple Airplay emitter that will link say à whatever Beogram to an airplay speaker or receiver. No RIAA, no fancy link system, just that, Analogue to Airplay.
Since you have the experience, could you tell use how difficult it would be and if you have any insight on why this is something that never came up? (Licenses problems with Apple lawyers, of course but even underground, looks like it never happened…).
Congratulations again for your project.
given that the maker of these products was more or less banned from this forum.
If I remember correctly, the maker of this product was openly advertising for his product to be sold without kindly asking to the forum runners. Absolutely nothing to do with this unless it would be an underground noise with B3OHACK3R selling his box under the hood in PM, which I doubt.
I think there are commercial software solutions available that can act as a airplay sender. For example the one for Windows that can send audio to any airplay enabled speaker.
Yes, I know about software, computer based solution. They are not convenient at all.
Not practically, or event environmentally: having a computer running to airplay a 33′, really?The Arduino or similar are not easy for anybody, as you perfectly said it.
This is a thing I never understood: why nobody made a little black box to stupidly airplay broadcast any analogue signal, even under the coat. The same way I’ve never understood why nobody made the same thing for light control.
Anyway, I wish you good luck with your project and in any case it made that forum shiver again and only this is a beautiful achievement. Welcome to Beoworld B3OHACK3R.
In my view your “Private Project” has great commercial potential.
I would not turn this very interesting and funny and promising topic into a political marketing oriented discussion: B3OHACK3R, we need people like you or Pilatomic or that guy who’s stuck a full digital gateway into an old white Beomaster 6500, or also Beolover who made all 4000’s remote controllable… People that make our old things ready for the present and even maybe the future.
BUT…
I would not say “the project has great commercial potential”.
My point of view is we, core B&O clients, are dinosaurs and sorry to be blunt, we’re all dying. This is truly a niche product. Just look at the grumpy cat, he already made clear that he’s happy with his ML/NL solution, people who participate to this topic are only “bidouilleurs” (can’t find the english word…) and most people that would be interested in this will not invest in a solution that looks like “reverse engineered (no offense in this). Quite ironic when you think they would certainly invest 3 or 4 time more money into a less versatile solution but officially coming from B&O.
As an example I would use the Lintronic example or even OneRemote. I would not say their businesses are flourishing, I even believe that Lintronic dropped if not the whole lineup at least whatever is B&O related.
We, all of us, between us, trying to pushing limits, like all the members I named but also Madskp, Guy, and in their own way, Dillen, Steve, Sonavor and some I’m forgetting, but to the extend to say “it’s a business that has potential…”, in my dumb opinion, no.
Just ask Lee…
In severe cases you can see “lightning”-type sparks from the record to surrounding chassis metal in a dark room.
Please Dillen, be gentle with new members. You don’t have to be “that” scary, Freddy-len!
😉As far as I know…
It is not more risky to buy an MK2 than a MK3. Last year I would in fact have told you that it was the other way around: given the most common fault is a laser failure, MK3 has a specific laser assembly hard to find or at crazy price at B&O when MK2 has a more usual one you can find anywhere for a couple of bucks. Since then I’ve learned that most laser failures can be solved with a deep lens cleaning (lens up/down and mirror).
In regard to other fault, I don’t remember one unit was more prone to failure than the other one and for all of them even if problems happens sometimes, its a relatively robust unit and in most cases, easily serviceable. Then the only factual parameter would be that MK3 are of course more “young” units and it may have an impact on the mechanical parts (carriage noise, door mechanism strength, discs clamps softness, etc…)
Hope this helps.
As a moderator I need to remove your post before Dillen sees it!
Apart from that, I find the look of it totally cool: So “James Bond”!
sorry I made a mistake
I think you did not.
Beoworld is a dying forum relying on the good will and personal money of founders to stay afloat.
unless you really betray some sort of legal arrangement with somebody, I don’t see this like an error.
some members are right, B&O makes us happy with good or less good products, it’s always a storm here But beside that what do we really owe to the brand ? Money? Done. Passion? Done. Loyalty? Done. I believe we can chat about rumors and leaks they are responsible for.
where were they when Beoworld was (is) suffocating, dying? What will be the next step? Don’t say evil about beolab XX? Don’t talk about recurring flaws in the app? Don’t give tips on repair because that will be our next « recreation »?I’ve already said it: B&O should send their lawyers against compagnies that make copies and plague the market, not enthusiastic little boys that are excited by the next product and will anyway buy it the loud price.
even more. If B&O feel threatened by your original post, they must really concentrate on engineering, creativity and security matters. Because I don’t see any unbelievable revelation in that. What? Satellites for thé 6000€ théâtre? Really? Beoworld shoul sur them because I remember we have talk again tha way before everyone else.
no you did not made a mistake. And no, as a sophomore moderator, I disagree with Allstate happened.thank you for reading. And delete if needed.
It’s the slider knob…
I don’t suppose you would mind sharing the file?
Of course I would! Weird it didn’t did it already…
Here it is.
No.
The ability to make something 50+ years old still relevant today…
I understand perfectly. Unfortunately, with the end of the FM band and the short broadband of the receiver (“my” stations are past 105 MHz) the only relevant use I’ve found is decoration. Hope you’ll find better to do with it.
Hi.
I’ve tried in the past to “bluetooth” various things: a Beosystem 10, a Beolit 707 and a Beocom 6000 at least. All this is documented on the old forum.
The Beosytem 10 ended up being airplay-ed.
For the 707, I use an USB receiver and a slim powerbank. It did work and was “useable”.
But the thing was that the sound was very bad.
– Dumb assumption – I believe the speaker was meant to emphasis common frequency from radio or music from that time and now when you feed it with whatever modern sound (not music, sound) it just sounds hollow. Absolutely no benefit appart the pleasure of the game.
Anyway, now what I want is to find a cheap, dead, not reparable 707 and a Beoplay A2 in the same condition and just tuck the last into the first.
For what it worth the BS10 Airplay attempt ended up the same: sounds hollow, flat, better find a bargain con a Beolit 12: just what I did !
Hope this helps.
Hi Mads,
I must confess I’m a little bit lost here, All those pin to pin voltage do confuses me.
On question thought: did you manage to get the BL3500, working as it should with the WL1?
That mean having it wirelessly connected to a master link master and having the WL1 starting the 3500?21 August 2023 at 11:51 in reply to: Sound quality/ reliability comparisons of different beomaster receivers #48356I always feel a little bit “away” of that kind of talk because first I don’t think I have the right ears, ans then because I never know how well are the electronics of my stuff.
That said…
I’ve experienced the well know difference between BM5000 and BM 5500: BM 5000 is “fuller” and “round”. BM5500 is like “average”.
I’ve used a lot a BM1001 which I love: impressive round bass (I’ve heard about a so called “loudness effect” on that receiver…), sounds clear, perfect to my tastes and for the “demo”, analog and digital. When it felt ill I had to replace it with a BM901.
I love the 901: beautiful sleek design and it performed so well that when the 1001 came back, it was difficult to go back. So it will always be a secret love.A borrowed BC7700, as expected same signature that the BM5000.
All those with S45-2 or P50. I’m now in a 1990-2000 mood but that were a good time…
Hi,
You should do a search in the old forum. There, you’ll find a topic drove by a certain CB.
On this topic and some others, you’ll find a lot of answers and if I recall correctly something about http and https adresses.
That should be a good start.If you get no helpful answers from this, you should know that in worst case scenario, your Essence will act as a playmaker, which means an expensive (at the time) Airport Express base, with the addition of an auto sense line in, but with the down side of no remote control.
Let us know how what you did with it.
Unfortunately it does not react on any buttons.
It seems to be a common IR board issue. The Beolab do not “see” the IR beam.
I think I’ve read somewhere that the solution it’s the usual two caps replacement, easy, but the problem is accessing the board that implies a deep dismantling IIRC.I seen somewhere on the forum that beolink converter 1611 might be a solution?
It will not be a solution to your IR problem but it will make the use of your BL3500 more convenient (once you solved the IR problem). The topic is well documented somewhere in the forum. Do a search with 1611.
Hi Steve,
Congratulations on your choice to go after a Shape. To me it’s one of the good old fashioned B&O magic things like ib the past even thought it has no glass moving parts.
I do not own one but have thought about it many times and to be honest in many ways (mystery…). Anyway, while waiting for a more educated answer here is some of my thought:
One thing that struck me is that the Shape is bigger than expected in real life. The individual tiles are massive and bigger than I thought. If your thinking rubout it for a long time you should be ware of this but still, don’t let yourself be surprised: going 8 tiles over 6 may really be 2 tiles too much.
Colors is a matter of taste. I do think that part of beauty lies in contrast but all the Shapes installations I’ve seen I’ve liked were mostly shade on shade. You said the wall is white, but for a clean installation you will need to make a groove to pass wires, meaning you’ll certainly need to paint after. Even if not, painting a wall is quite cheap. I would consider installing a Beosound Shape as it should be: like a piece of art, that is considering the tiles AND the wall and the surrounding environnement.
I’ll stay away from mixing fabrics, they away different grain and that would immediately make it look like a mix and match, second hand, not coordinated thing.
I would also think it twice on the dark oak tile: even if I like it too, I think it ruins the “Shape effect” by saying “under this tile there is something different than under the fabric tiles so this is a sound installation”. And wood ,appart on the floor, tends to be a very fashion turning material.Things I would you depending on what you have at hand:
• Use extensively the Shape simulator on the B&O website (Sure you have!).
• Use a projector if you have one, to display the configuration, including colored wall on your actual wall.
• Print fake tiles on A3 paper, stick them on the wall, let them for a couple of days and see.
• If you’re handy at Photoshop, make simulations.Hope this helps, lucky guy you are!
Hi,
Plug them, enjoy them…
Unless you home has a very specific wiring, meaning the opposite of a carefully and perfectly crafted network, and different from our common home where live and neutral colors are mixed somewhere in a wall, I doubt you’ll risk anything.
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