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simonharries wrote:

Thanks Hiort – that’s very useful information and the set up you show there looks great. Maybe I’m setting my sights too high – always wanted a tangential deck and the BM3300 just fitted with that. I was going to add a WiiM Mini to the setup so I can use the system from other sources – hence not worrying about CD/Tape yet. Can I ask what speakers you’re using, please? Am open to suggestions but the ones I mention are being sold along with the BM3300 and the size suits my needs. Only other thing – is there a remote that works with the BM1900? That would be handy too. Thanks again

I think a tangential recorddeck is a good choice, and would love to have one myself. They have been quite expensive though.

I have purchased a pair of refoamed CX100 bookshelf speakers. Super solid in aluminum. They are decent in my small homeoffice. Im sure the speakers you mention have better punch.

The BM1900 cannot be remote controlled. I also have a Beomaster 3000 that have a dedicated remote.

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Nice 🙂 Looks like you found some good prices and gear. Yeah, stylus are really expensive. I sent my old stylus (from the Beogram 2200) for “re-tipping” to a guy in Germany that do that work.

The B&O virus is really contagious 🙂

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Welcome to the forum @simonharries 🙂

I think the pieces you mention is as good start as any, when it comes to vintage B&O. The BM3300 have built in RIAA amplifier, and that is always convenient. I don´t have any experience with the speakers you mentioned.

You may use the tape input on the Beomaster to add e.g a digital source like Airport Express to enable playing over Airplay.

I recently acquired a Beomaster 1900 to join my old Beogram 2200.

I purchased the Beogram new 1979/80 when I was a kind, but could not affort the Beomaster 1900 at the time. So it took more than 40 years 😉

Remember that the Beomaster that are this old may have problems with e.g leaking capacitors. There are lots of people out there that do that type of restoration if needed. All cables you may need can be sourced from Steve at Soundsheavenly. (Link on this site)

 

 

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Very nice responses to the OP:s questions and very well formulated “reviews” of your setups. Kudos to you who replied 🙂

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Clearly a SW bug in the BL8:s.

Report to B&O support.

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Sandyb wrote:

Lowering guidance out of reporting cycle is not great news. I know they have done this before (last March) on occasion, but still. Smoothing out the (modest) pandemic era bump in revenue, overall company revenue is broadly unchanged over the last few years, despite price 30% (at least) higher. Logic suggests volume must be down a similar 30%! I know they are ok with transitioning to a “leaner” model, but selling less and less at higher and higher prices is awfully risky.

Agree. “We improved our earnings despite a lower level of revenue compared to Q2 of last year.”
That does not help if you cannot increase your revenue.

“Our customer base grew by 5%” Wonder how they measure that? Also strange since the revenue decline. Is that maybe people buying headsets that in comparison represent a smaller investment.

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1. OlivierC wrote:

   Finally! ? So many questions. What’s doing more / differently compared to the BS Core, other than being based on Mozart platform instead of ASE? The site states that’s the bridge between legacy and current products but it is not clear as it’s referring to turntables and speakers, not music systems. Would it avoid the need of intermediate converters? What about controlling a non-B&O / non-LG tv set with BR1? Would it work for volume control only or more? I presume it is supporting stereo sound only. It would mean e.g. a pair of BL18 but what if a BL19 is added to the mix? Is there an improved DAC compared to BS Core? Olivier

RIAA still needed.
Stereo only when connected to TV

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Yes you can! There is a minijack input. However, you need to add a RIAA stage between the 5500 and the A9.

Steve at Soundsheavenly have all you need to make this happen.

Sounds Heavenly – audio cables and friendly advice – Specialist Audio Cables for Bang & Olufsen and more

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Nice to see renovation of Beograms.
I bought my Beogram 2200 1979/80 for money I had saved.
It ended up at the attic after moving into a new house, since the panel in front and lid was broken and I could not start any play. I then had the idea of bringing it back to life again a few years back. I found a Beogram 2200 at a auction that was cosmetically bad but lid was fine as well as the front panel.
I swapped the parts from the donor to my Beogram and painted the white wood trims that had turned yellow. I sent the stylus to Germany for renovation.

It now bring joy to me in its full glory.

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It is a bit tight on a 46″. You will need to remove some plastic on the back panel. Maybe more room on a BV11 55″.

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Indeed, but that is what they told me. At first, I was told to check that the software was up-to-date but that has been set to automatic since I got the Moment. They then sent a software update to my Moment. However, it would not load despite several attempts and several factory resets. It would start downloading the updated software, then fail, retry and then start to reboot, at which point I’d get a triangle with an exclamation mark in it on an otherwise blank Jukebox screen. The Moment then became unresponsive and I had to reboot it. That got old after a few attempts. When I told B&O Support what happened, I was told that that the Moment is ‘defective’. I‘m now in discussion with my local B&O dealer with a view to swapping the Moment for a Core and Halo, with a substantial discount. I’m visiting the store later in the week for a demo. We shall see…

Very nice if you can get such a deal. Let us know how it progress.

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No worries.

Carry the set by lifting holding the sound center and supporting by gently holding upper part for the screen. It’s a two person work.

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Sandyb wrote:

B&O said on the recent investor presentation that (at least?) one new products’ release has been pushed back into next year. By that I think they meant 2025 (one of the analysts asked for that clarification).

Its a bit confusing that B&O often refer “years” to their financial year, and that as I understood is July 1 – June 30.

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Stephen wrote:

It seems that the Beosound Moment has significant issues with music file metadata. This must be specific to Deezer because my Jukebox displays artist and song names as well as cover art when I’m listening to music in my personal DLNA library. After a great deal of to-ing and fro-ing with B&O Support, trying various potential solutions, they decided that my Moment is defective and should be repaired. Yeah, right! I always liked the concept of the Beosound Moment. It looks great and, in principal, it should work – especially given the cost of B&O kit. But B&O discontinued it relatively early for reasons that are unclear to me and, frankly, I don’t believe they have any interest in supporting it anymore.

Im surprised that Support give you that response. Moment rely on metadata that it gets from e.g Deezer and Gracenote. I know that Gracenote provided coverart. The reason it works for the files you have in your DLNA library is probably that you have coverart embedded in those files. For all other metadata that Moment need for e.g Moodwheel and coverart it needs to get that from external sources. Those external sources (like Gracenote) provide that through their API and probably at a cost. Agree that given the cost of the product B&O should have maintained the interfaces to external parties, but clearly they have not. That support says your Moment need to be “repaired” is just stupid.

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Beosound Moment is a discontinued product. B&O generally dropped TuneIn in favour of their B&O Radio service, so you will no longer get TuneIn through Moment.

For Deezer, I guess since B&O do not maintain the product any longer, any changes Deezer do in their API will cause problems in Moment. E.g cover art is no longer provided through Gracenote and also other metadata that used to be input to Moments “Mood wheel”.

I had Beosound Moment a few years from its launched and liked it. I was even in the audience when it was launched at CES in Las Vegas, almost exactly 9 years ago. Sad it sold badly, but I guess that way of consuming music only attracted “enthusiasts” and the initial software was crap (but later fixed) 🙂

(pic from B&O press presentation)

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Think price is around 180 euro.

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Never experienced….

Dont think you can fix that. You can buy the “electronics part” of the remote as a separate item from B&O. Then you can keep the metal part.

 

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I just did some tests, and now everything works as expected, playing Airplay to a speaker and extending to my BV11. Have not made any changes.

Not sure what caused the initial problems, but all good now.

 

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Noticed just now that you wrote “connected”. Its not possible with physical connection. BS1 has no Line in / Out.

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You are able to use them simultaneous, using Beolink. Meaning you start the source on e,g Beosound 1 and then add Stage to that play (ideally using the B&O app). They will play in sync.

Both need to be on the same network.

(I assume your Beosound 1 is the conic aluminium speaker 🙂

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