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  • in reply to: Beogram 4000 Restoration Issue #40270
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      (Thermistor or current limiter…)
      Modifying only to compensate afterwards would make little sense in my opinion.

      Sorry to say it, but I would suggest replacing that lot of capacitors with single cans of good general purpose types.
      I would fit can-types rather than PCB-mounts, exactly as B&O chose to do it. They have
      a much nicer “oompfh” for this combination of motors, relays, solenoid and (at times sensitive to clean voltage) electronics.
      This goes for the DC-motor versions as well.

      And remember – no low-ESR capacitors in any power supply filtering positions in the classic B&Os.

      Also make sure to find a bipolar cap with healthy ripple current specs.
      Phasing a motor is hard work for a capacitor.

      Mains has no reference inside the Beogram.
      Chassis ground has no connection to any mains (it would potentially be lethal).
      Mains go through the voltage selector and the fuses to the transformer.
      Chassis ground is capacitively coupled to signal/electronics ground. If your deck has a three-prong mains plug, the chassis will be connected to the earth pin of the plug.
      This means, that you can’t use chassis ground as reference for anything, really – not
      for measuring around in the electronics either. Here you must use signal ground for reference.
      For convenience I like to clip the meters negative pin to the common negative point of the large cans in the regulator circuit (after your modification no longer accessible in your Beogram).

      Martin

      in reply to: Beogram 2000 motor (1983 – 1987) #40490
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        Have you checked the motor suspension?
        There is a good chance the motor pulley is rubbing on the metal bracket due to failing suspensions.
        Read here:

        Motor suspension rubber bushing grommet set f. several Beogram Beocenter models

        Martin

        in reply to: Beogram 4000 Restoration Issue #40267
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          One thing that kills transformers in these Beograms is rush-in current.
          This is an issue particularly if the Beogram stood unused for a long time, and definitely if someone put in low-ESR filter capacitors.
          The latter can be seen as an almost dead short right at the moment when voltage is applied, which puts a huge stress on the transfformer (and rectifier etc.).
          Always bring a long stored Beogram up slowly on the variac for the first time to save the transformer.

          Replacing one filter capacitor with two or more paralleled capacitors will only add to the risk of damaging the transformer as the resulting ESR (impedance) would be very low indeed.
          The regulator would also be at risk, because of the reservoir capacitor it replenishes.
          I wouldn’t recommend it.

          Also, I am not sure what you measuring in the two photos with the multimeter.
          Looks like the meter is in DC voltage mode while you measure on the fuses (?). And where is the reference (meter ground) connected?

          Martin

          in reply to: Beomaster 1100 bulbs #40392
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            Don’t change the value of the resistor.
            Besides, a 5W resistor will dissipate just as much energy as a 3W if they are of the same ohmic value.
            And don’t think a resistor is bad just because it runs warm.
            The resistor in question will run warm. If the lamp has been out – or the
            Beomaster hasn’t seen use for a long time, dust on the resistor may emit a warm smell
            and even a little smoke for a minute or two as it warms up for the first time.
            Not unlike many valve-based items.
            That’s all normal.

            If the resistor has indeed gone bad or measures very wrong, I suggest you ask at Beoparts-shop for a possible replacement.

            Beoparts-shop is a webshop, it requires no membership or login.
            http://www.beoparts-shop.com

            Martin

            in reply to: Beomaster 1100 bulbs #40390
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              “A lamp 12v/80mA has the same characteristics even bought from beoparts or elsewhere.”

              True.

              But quality could be the difference.
              From Asia you can often buy very cheap lamps meant for use in plastic toys.
              They typically have a rated lifespan of, perhaps, 200 hours (and tolerances not worth mentioning).
              You will often find these listed on Ebay and similar places for next to nothing.
              If you go for this quality it would be a good idea, as suggested in the linked thread, to buy
              lots of ten or more and, if you use your Beomaster on a regular basis, you will also
              develop good lamp replacement skills.

              Lamps from Beoparts-shop often have an expected lifespan of 2000 hours, some even 5-8000 hours.
              Some lamps sold there are actually custom produced.

              And the resistor will run warm.
              That’s Ohms law.

              Martin

              in reply to: Beomaster 4400 – Sudden drop in sound? #40283
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                Check for cracked solder joints, particularly where connectors and the piggy-back boards are soldered in.
                Does it run warm on the cooling fins? If so check the idle current settings.

                Martin

                in reply to: Source for Beomaster 8000 Release Rail Spring #40191
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                  That’s a homemade solution.
                  The spring plate is not supposed to sit under the keyboard like that.

                  Martin

                  in reply to: beogram 5500 turntable repair, gear disassembly? #39793
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                    The recitifier board pulls right up when you pry away the small black claw that holds it.
                    The regulator itself has three pins that goes into a connector. The regulator stays with the chassis.

                    The filter capacitor is a “soldering star” type – not a snap-in. They are known to go bad.

                    Also check the rectifier diodes. I’ve seen cases where owners fitted schottky types, – not sure why, presumably in a misunderstood attempt at improving something,
                    – and they are no good in this position. They typically go with a bang.

                    Martin

                    in reply to: Are “test records” usefull with Beograms? #40125
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                      Our beograms do not have (unless I’m mistaken) a lot of (if any) adjustments beside tracking force. No azimuth, no anti skating, no “whatever it is named I don’t even know what it is”…

                      Eh, what?
                      Which model Beogram are you talking about?
                      The term azimuth is mainly used with tapedecks, but the angle of the cartridge (rotation and/or parallelism) can be adjusted in many Beogram models.
                      So can anti-skating, even if a knob or dial for this is not in direct view.

                      Test records are good for countless things.
                      Many of the following parameters and properties can be checked using
                      one or more test records, – and most can be adjusted or manipulated in some way;
                      Tonearm height, tonearm parallelism, tonearm rotation, (& tonearm length for tangential models), tracking angle, tracking force, anti-skating, platter speed, wow, flutter, rumble.
                      Also general stylus condition, channel separation, distortion, frequency response (stylus and RIAA) etc. can be checked using test records.

                      Martin

                      in reply to: Are “test records” usefull with Beograms? #40127
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                        You can find test/calibration/alignment records in good shops, on Ebay or f.e. here:
                        https://www.discogs.com/search?q=stereo+test%20record&type=all

                        Note, that test records should not be bought “used” unless you trust the seller.
                        If a test record was played using a bad needle, it could be damaged and absolutely worthless.

                        Martin

                        in reply to: Beogram 1900 “Restore” #39770
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                          Originally, a special tool was available in order to align the spindles position.
                          This tool is nowhere to be found, so in most cases a careful check for free spinning of the spindle is all we can do to get it right.
                          The coil block and the two plates holding the bearings can be moved in relation to each other.
                          It’s not a lot, actually very little, but even an ever so tiny move could result in a much more free rotating spindle. As can a little wiggling of the spindle to make bearings run “clean” on their inside races axially rather than rub on edges.
                          Rotate the spindle by hand, and watch the run down time. The spindle should run for as many seconds as possible.

                          The motor will normally run a little warm after some minutes, but not hot.
                          If it runs hot there is something run. Has its coils been correctly electrically connected (in series and not parallel etc.)?

                          Martin

                          in reply to: Beogram 1900 “Restore” #39768
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                            Sure you have the spindle aligned correctly axially with the bearings?
                            Does the speed adjustment move the small magnets all the way out and away from the brake disc?

                            I take it this is not a 60Hz (US) deck running on 50Hz (europe etc.)?

                            Martin

                            in reply to: Beosystem 2500 Cassete issues and Beolab 2500 issues #40053
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                              Correct belt?
                              Check if the belt rubs on something.

                              Martin

                              in reply to: Beogram 3000 tonearm lifting too late… #39883
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                                Does it lift slow?
                                If so – dry or wrong lubricants?

                                Has it worked while in your possesion?
                                If not – wrong cam wheel for this model, perhaps?

                                Martin

                                in reply to: Beogram 2400 Tonearm not lowering #40000
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                                  Nothing wrong with that pin. It’s free and fine.
                                  And the typical symptom of a locked pin is that the tonearm doesn’t lift anymore, or only lifts very slowly.

                                  What cartridge is fitted, and have you checked the tracing force?

                                  Martin

                                  in reply to: Beogram 2400 Tonearm not lowering #40002
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                                    Did you check it with a proper gauge?
                                    If you don’t know who set up the Beogram and how, you shouldn’t trust the dial.

                                    Martin

                                    in reply to: Beogram 4004 (Type 5526) Issues #39876
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                                      What are all those white wires on the main PCB?

                                      And where does that module with the SMD caps come from?
                                      From the trademark logo I assume it must be a genuine Bang & Olufsen board, but I don’t recognize it.

                                      Martin

                                      in reply to: Beomaster 1700 #39955
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                                        If the contacts plating has gone, the connector is pretty much worthless.
                                        Looks like the connector on the tonecontrol module – right?
                                        Is it “only” the male part that has lost its plating or also the female part on the “piggy-back” PCB?

                                        Martin

                                        in reply to: Beomaster 1400 buttons #39947
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                                          The buttons are stuck in dry lubricants.
                                          Pull the knobs off, clean both sides of the metal blade for each knob and the respective
                                          mating slot in the knobs plastic backside.
                                          Contact cleaner can often help dissolve and shift the dried stuff.
                                          Sometimes IPA is better. Try and see.
                                          Pipe cleaners are good for cleaning both parts as they can be shaped to suit and will fit nicely in the slot.
                                          When clean add a little silicone grease (of the non-hardening type) to the slot in the
                                          plastic backsides and push back the knobs.

                                          All this can be done from the front.
                                          If a knob is really stubborn, you can lever it off careful using a flat-bladed screwdriver
                                          from below into the knobs recess and against the front frame with pieces of thin cardboard between to avoid scratching.

                                          Martin

                                          in reply to: The New BG4000C #33560
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                                            Maybe there?

                                            – Which actually mentions Beogram 4000 as well.

                                            Martin

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