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Thank you guys, for sharing your experiences.
I’ am going to test some streaming transports within next weeks … thinking about Antipodes K-Series and Grimm MU1, Innuos, Aurender and Nuprime Stream-9 … i could source the above locally and take them home for testing.
I did not buy the Core, just asked the dealer if he cluld lend it to me for a week … and he did.
Hmm,
after having spent decent money on BL90’s and a BS Theatre you’re satisfied with that solution?
Anybody heard about a new/updated core supposed to arrive in Q1 2023? Features?
15 November 2022 at 12:17 in reply to: Are older speakers more pleasant to hear than modern speakers (Beolab)? #40595The origin of Glenn Gould’s article you are referring to was a radio documentary show he did in 1965 about that topic …
I was asking the service people exactly that question and they replied, that the more “heat cycles” (they used a different expression) the mains chassis get, the more prone they would become for failure. They also pointed out, that the newer BL 50 and 90 designs put way less thermal stress on the components as they operate at lower temperatures, even when played intensively.
As for the “clock” … i don’t know.
After all, my BL5 had many intensive and loud listening time. Having to spend less than 10% of their purchase price now after 10 years to have them refurbished electronically is o.k for me. They were a lot of fun and pleasure to use until now and i hope, that they will be for the next decade.
The bigger problem was and still is the supply with replacement parts. It can take weeks or months, until B&O can provide them. It is time for them to install a classic parts division inside the factory, in order to keep their heritage products alive and working. Just heard, that there are hardly any parts anymore for BS9000 Mk1’s … no more cd-drives for example.
Hi,
my BL5’s are from 2013 and both had their main chassis replaced within 2022. Have to say, that they run at least 4-6 hours every day.
The replacement was approx. 750 Euros each, done by an authorized service partner. The local B&O shop wanted to charge approx. 1500 Euros each, i.e doubled the sum!
So, i would assume, that it might just be a question of time, maybe also depending on how intensive they were used.
Best regards
Tom
I think Beojeff is absolutely right!
It is a shame, that you’d have to discuss about that.
What else than discrimination and disrespect does this wording contribute to the content?
I am quite dazzled in fact how many people here obviously think, that this bevavior is o.k.
You’re right sandyb,
the motorized floor stand is quite expensive, but for the adapter platform i’m not sure you can skip that, unless you want to have the screen in line with the Theatre … depth-wise.
For me, i want to have the flexibility with the floorstand to choose positions and need the moving stand because i’d have different seating scenarios in the room, which is a little larger. The 77″ Harmony would have been even more expensive, so i save money with the Theatre ??
Any opinions regarding the front speaker choice BL50 vs BL90 refering to my priorities/my use?
Some pictures of a Theatre in anthracite with dark oak grill.
Some info concerning the pricing. For the 6.490 Euro you would get the Soundbar in cloth, a table mount and a bracket for wall mounting. As i wanted to use it as a proper TV-set, I opted for the motorized stand, anthracite body, oak grill, mounting plate for the LG G2 panel, side wings for the 77″ panel and a Beoremote One. Price came out just shy under 13.000 Euros, LG OLED panel excluded!
Hi everybody,
as i am in the market for some new B&O, i attended the Beosound Theatre Event in Berlin in order to get an impression on sound and build quality.
A few weeks before i was sure, that i would go with a Harmony 77″ and a pair of Beolab 28’s, which i was able to hear weeks before at a dealership and which i liked quite a bit. My plan was/is to build a system with a new Beovision as the center, a pair of existing BL18 as rears and a set of new BL28 as front speakers.
The announcement of the Beosound Theatre made we hesitate to go with the Harmony TV, since it is a very heavy item and quite complicated to move around. And then there was the prospect of getting the Mozart platform with the new Theatre, which would probably make it more future proof. And of course i was speculating on better audio performance compared to the Harmony. So i postponed my decision on the TV.
When the press event for the Theatre was announced in Berlin, i registered and went to see and hear the new Theatre. The event itself was arranged in a very nice place and the B&O people were extraordinary kind and caring in order to answer any questions.
The setup of the demo was a Theatre with an LG panel in front and a set of BL28 as rears … much to my surprise, no other front speakers were set up, so that i wasn’t able to experience my planned configuration.
The demo for us was a movie sequence from James Bond “no time to die”
And after that, we were able to play some music solely via the Theatre. To my understanding narrow mode was active all the time.
Conclusions:
Coming from a system of Beovision 7-55/BL10 with BL5’s as fronts and BL8000 as rears i really missed a decent width of the sound stage when watching the movie clip. The Theatre produced enormous energy and excellent control when played loudly. The seperation of speech from the special effect sounds was not so good in the demo, for my liking. But i don’t know how to judge that correctly, since i didn’t know the movie or that sequence. Maybe there would have been better sounding clips. The effect of the BL28 was quite subtle, as i sensed it, but added some transparency/resolution and some bass. But nothing monstrous. For me, the setup with Theatre only in front was not good enough sonically, as the sound stage was to narrow/condensed for my liking and speech was not accentuated enough. So for me there have to be front speakers in the system. As i also planned to use my BL5’s in another room and setup in the future, it made me think about the appropriate front speakers for the new system. Perhaps not so easy with the Theatre being that powerful. On the other hand that could be the chance to scratch the itching for a pair of BL90 … or maybe a BL50 would be good enough … and the use the BL28 as rears. Maybe somebody here has an opinion on that.
To my further surprise, i liked listening to music with the Theatre better, than watching movies. We were able to play a few titles that i know very well and it performed very nicely for my taste. And i did not expect that from a “soundbar”, but thought it was more suited for the TV/homecinema experience, which is not the priority for me. For me it is music streamed from Qobuz and live concerts from wherever i can get them in decent quality … even from youtube … npr desk top concerts.
As i buy new systems approx every 10 years, money of course always matters, but is not the decisive factor alone … peace of mind with the purchase it is. With the BL90 i have some concerns regarding the weight and not being able to move them easily … not overly important, but still a factor for me. But realizing the strong improvements in resolution and accuracy with the newer Beolabs 50/90 i would like to benefit from that, especially since the hearing won’t get better over time as far as higher frequencies are concerned.
For now i ordered a Besound Theatre with a motorized flootstand an the adapter for a LG oled G2 panel in 77″ … and a pair of BL28’s. It it said to arrive at the dealer in October.
Best regards
Tom
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