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    beojeff
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      Today, a dealer sent me a chart from B&O that shows the types of control available with the Theater and various non-LG TVs and projectors. It looks like there is at least some control. For example, it shows that using the Beoremote One to turn on/off the Theater will turn many TVs on/off.

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      Steve at Sounds Heavenly
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        Hi Les,

        Sorry I can’t test Theatre with Pentas, as these speakers are too heavy to take to the only store in UK that has Theatre so far (Selfridges, London). I can advise that Theatre does not supply display data for Pentas, this feature ceased in around 2012. However, Theatre will work with Pentas, as well as with any other Beolab speakers.

        I hope to hear the Theatre next week, with a review to follow in October.

        Kind regards, Steve.

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        Millemissen
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          More background knowledge for understanding the BS Theatre:

          Beosound Theatre: A very short history lesson

           

          Edit:
          Notice the added articles as well.

          MM

          #37365
          beojeff
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            I’ll try to attach the file regarding 3rd party tv and projector integration.

            #37369
            Sandyb
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              Ordered my Theatre today, and 77 inch LG G2.

              Will wall mount the basic 55 Theatre with wood lamellas (above my floating cabinet), and separately wall / flush mount the LG G2 77, with some separation between the two. Will live with it for a while, and then see if any extension / widening wings are needed to improve the aesthetics of the setup.

              No additional parts required – i.e no Theatre VESA interface, not floor stand, so just the price of the 2 separate elements. While that configuration may not suit all, its what I’ve always wanted (configuration wise), and saves quite a lot vs other configuration options. The VESA interface / motorised stands are expensive and really raise the piece of those types of setups.

              Elsewhere, the lack of HDMI Matrix integration is far from ideal. The workaround is liveable though – by using the one matrix output that arrives in my living room for my main matrix connected source, SKY Q set top box, I can use the BR1 to control the SKY box through the Theatre, as that single matrix connection will carry PUC commands back to the matrix. This direct matrix connection will go into the Theatre HDM 2, plus a PUC connection.

              The lack of Matrix integration means that any other sources need to be local. I will put an ATV 4K locally now connected into Theatre HDMI 3, and a PUC between them will also allow the BR1 to control it.

              That covers 85% of my use cases by source. On the odd occasion when I want to use the BR player or PS5, it will require using the matrix iPhone app to switch sources sent down the pipe to the Theatre, and no BR1 control is then possible (obviously not an issue with my PS5).

              Anyway, forgive the long post, but at least (subject to wood lamellas colour choice to come), I’m now done – for my living room, where the BV12-65 will get replaced by the above. Next year, I will change my bedroom Avant 55 to a Theatre 55.

               

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              Emilos88
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                Great thank you

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                beojeff
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                  Can anyone discern what the difference might be between the third row and fifth row in the chart for third party integration? Both refer to the Theater turning the TV screen off when the Theater is switched to standby, but it’s unclear what the difference is between those two rows.

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                  Millemissen
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                    That is very helpfull, indeed!

                    MM

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                    Sandyb
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                      Hmmm…..is it the following?

                      Row 3. Beosound Theatre switches TV off at standby – I think this is asking whether the TV in question switches off if the Theatre is idle and goes into standby i.e theatre inactivity also shuts the Tv off.

                      Row 5. Beosound Theatre switches the TV off (use Beoremote One or app to select standby) – I think this is asking whether the TV in question switches off if the Theatre is put into standby by one of the Beoremote / B&O app….i.e. does the TV in question react to a B&O standby command.

                      Looking at lots of those rows / scenarios, there are subtle differences between them, though I conceded its not super clear.

                      #37368
                      B F
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                        Thanks

                        #37372
                        beojeff
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                          I ordered my Beosound Theatre today.

                          I’ve been told by my dealer that even thought I don’t have an LG screen that I’ll be able to pair the Beoremote One with the Theatre and control devices connected directly to the Theatre by PUC — such as Apple TV and UHD player. If I just need to add the ability to turn the Samsung TV on/off, I already have that control with the BLI and Global Caché. So I can just create macros to do that.

                          Never having had Dolby Atmos at home, I sorted through blu-rays and UHDs to pick some Dolby Atmos movies to enjoy when I get the Theatre. I was frustrated to see that there ARE a lot of discs that only have DTS. I guess I’ll have to live with going into my UHD player settings to switch from bitstream to PCM whenever I need to play a dts-only movie.

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                          Sandyb
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                            congratulations, what spec did you go for, if you dont mind me asking?!

                             

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                            beojeff
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                              congratulations, what spec did you go for, if you dont mind me asking?!

                              I went for the basic 55″ in silver andgrey melange and just the included wall mount. I plan to upgrade to 77″ and oak sometime later. FYI, the part of the total price for the fabric is $200. So I suppose that buying just the oak grill later will be an additional $200 on top of the price difference on the website. I would have like the gold tone, but I was told that might be backordered until the end of the year. It’s expected that I’ll receive mine by the middle of October.

                              I’m going to try to keep my cable from the BeoSystem 4 in place as they are as much as possible. I’ll try to run Cat7 cables from the Theatre’s powerlink sockets to connect to the cables I used for the BeoSystem 4 via RJ45 couplers. It seems less of a mess to have 4 Cat7 cables running from the Theatre than 8 DIN powerlink cables running from the Theatre.

                              I’m curious to see how much better the Theatre will be replacing my BeoLab 10.

                              I’m not sure whether I will use the Theatre as just the center channel speaker and keep my BeoLab 9 speakers as front left and right speakers or if I will use the Theater for front left, center, and front right channels and use my BeoLab 9 speakers as wide left and wide right speakers. Any thoughts anyone?

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                              Mark
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                                I ordered my gold 55″ Beosound Theater with the oak grill today, a gold Beoremote One and the USB-C to mini-jack adapter. I will table mount it on the entertainment center under the TV so it doesn’t have to be the same size as the TV. The current estimated delivery is mid to late November.

                                It’s too bad I can’t use my old IR Beoremote One!

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                                Sandyb
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                                  congratulations!

                                  What TV are you going to use with it?

                                  Guessing an LG, but just asking…

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                                  Mark
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                                    The quote I have for the 55″ gold Theater with the oak grill has the grill for $1300. I suppose this will be the price to buy it separately later.

                                     

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                                    Severed_hand_of_skywalker
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                                      It wasn’t cheap but the theatre is exactly what I wanted from them for many years. I will be ordering the Oak version along with the motorized stand and I’m going to mount my Sony OLED on it.

                                      Im pairing it with BL18’s for front left and right and BL3 for the rears. For now I’m using a 3rd party sub but in the future ill probably get the 19.

                                      Just a note apparently if you don’t have an LG Gx it doesn’t come with the back beauty mount leaving it looking more exposed on the back.

                                      #37378
                                      Mark
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                                        I currently have a 65″ LG C6, but it’s time for a new TV now. I am leaning toward the 65″ LG G2. It’s a huge investment for me. (both the tv and the theater!)

                                         

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                                        BeoMedia
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                                          Considering B&O is marketing this as future proof (obviously to some extent), I am wondering the limitations of the product if the app is no longer updated? Can it be adjusted just as much and be used without a smartphone and B&O app? If not it is hardly future proof?

                                          Curious to learn about this if anyone knows. The app dependency is why I never went for an Almond surround decoder as it can only be controlled with a smartphone app.

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                                          Steve at Sounds Heavenly
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                                            Hi BeoMedia,

                                            Ultimately, this is something I wouldn’t worry about. As with any other Mozart based speakers, once you have set up the Theatre to your liking, there shouldn’t be any need for further app or software updates (although B&O do continue to provide ongoing updates both both the app and the product software if you choose to install them).

                                            You can use the Theatre with a B&O remote without needing the app, but if you have an iOS or Android device with the B&O app installed then this would in theory continue to function long after B&O stopped providing further updates.

                                            I have my own Mozart speakers set to not download further software updates, as I am happy with their current functionality (I may review this if B&O provide extra features in the future!). So, to all intents and purposes, my speakers are operating in that same (theoretical) “end-of-support” situation that you described.

                                            Hope that helps!

                                            Kind regards, Steve.

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