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  • #38245
    NQVHNWI
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      The only issue I have (BL90 plus 3pairs of BL3s) is the boot time for the 90s to click online and to form the latency.

      probably 2-3 seconds max

      #38246
      Millemissen
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        The only issue I have (BL90 plus 3pairs of BL3s) is the boot time for the 90s to click online and to form the latency. probably 2-3 seconds max

        That is pretty normal, I guess.

        MM

        #38247
        Millemissen
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          @Mikipedia is one of the few people with many speakers fulfilling several roles. @Sandyb has just the two speakers and the Theatre. Speculation: Perhaps when switching listening positions, the Theatre cycles thru each speaker, powering it up — and instead of accumulating/max-ing the wait times of all speakers before their amplifiers click on, it performs the delay per speaker (or pair) serially? After moving, when he sets it up again, maybe @Mikipedia can try with only one pair of external speakers…

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          This – in my case – can’t be the reason.
          As I wrote:
          ‘returning from a multi speaker ‘group’ to the BST alone – it takes up to 7 seconds to get sound.
          The other way ‘round sound is immediately there’.

          P.S.

          I have 7 LP’s with 6 wired speakers (and the BST).

          MM

          #38238
          syrianos82
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            Is this a beta or public release?

            My BL28 received an auto update but the TH didn’t show an updated 2.5.3 of the beta, they differ a few build numbers now. I’ll check again later today. Also could not connect through airplay anymore, wondering if that’s due to the Release Candidate from apple or the beta of B&O

            #38239
            Sandyb
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              Hi there MM

              On one of the recent podcast the lag when changing listening positions was discussed. It seems that there are some who have long-ish lags (similar to yours), and those for whom the lag is more or less not there i.e. 1-2 seconds.

              I’ve played around with my experience – and flicking between LP’s, my lag is between 1-2 seconds. No idea why some have this 7 second lag – Michael, the podcast host, has always had 7 second lags since his Theatre was installed.

              #38240
              syrianos82
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                The lag is distinctly longer when a listening position includes more or less speakers than the active position.

                for example

                when I do a sweet spot change with BS TH + BL28 set in narrow to wide it’s nearly instant.
                when I change the position from BS TH + BL28 to an position where a set of BL17’s are added there is a few second lag.
                my guess is that the BS TH needs to process the soundsignal to split in more channels and needs time to do so…

                same when switching from a music position with the BL28 alone and a position with BL28 + BL19 btw

                #38248
                trackbeo
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                  [Oops, squash that hypothesisWAG!]

                  #38249
                  syrianos82
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                    Is there a way yet to rearrange listening positions for the theatre?

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                    Millemissen
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                      Is there a way yet to rearrange listening positions for the theatre?

                      Not that I know of!
                      But that would be nice, so…..

                      MM

                      #38251
                      Sandyb
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                        How is everyone getting on with the Theatre shutting down / crashing issue? (for those who were affected by it of course).

                        I’ve had CEC blockers installed in my living room theatre setup (on 2 of the 3 hdMI inputs), and on the bedroom Theatre’s sole HDMI input.

                        Still havent reached a conclusion yet as to whether this has fixed the issue, as its only been a few days and I need to give it some time (though the living room one did turn itself off once I think the last few days).

                        Anyway, interested as to how (those) people are getting on?

                        #38252
                        Millemissen
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                          Since this ‘issue’ seems to be highly dependent on your BST configuration/setup, it always helps to know what people have, when posting about this.

                          In my case with Theatre and 4 speakers + two subs and 3 devices connected/2 of these puc’ed all to the Theatre (I only use the tuner of the LG, no apps), it mostly happens, when I change between the sources (ATV, Blu Ray player, Chromecast Ultra dongle)….at least so it seems (???)…..
                          …..that is my current ‘theory’.

                          In the last 5-6 days we have only used the ATV and there has been no issues.
                          No issues with pure audio playback from the BST.
                          BST and LG are updated to the latest sw.

                          I will report back, what happens, when I play from Blu Ray and go back to ATV etc etc in everyday use.

                          I have two CEC blockers laying around ready for use, but as long as there are no problems, I’ll wait.

                          Maybe it is fixed!?

                          MM

                          #38253
                          Sandyb
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                            No worries.

                            For broad context, my simple standalone (i.e no other speakers attached) bedroom Theatre setup has generally been fine, especially w.r.to the shutting down issue. There is only one HDMI source (Sky set top box).

                            The living room Theatre, with external speakers, and 3 HDMI inputs (Sky STB, BR player and ATV 4K) is the one which had the issue with some frequency.

                            Anyway, my dealer sent round their technician last week and added CEC blockers – he speaks to Denmark quite often, and from what they have told him, B&O are strongly recommending CEC blockers.

                            #38254
                            Millemissen
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                              It would be nice to know, if those who solely use the apps of the LG and have no external devices, ever have experienced the ‘shut down issue’.

                              Yes, I know – I was also adviced (by the support in DK) to use the blockers.

                              MM

                              #38260
                              Millemissen
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                                The system works fine but I can’t integrate it with my link NL/ML system. Have heard that a sw update should allow for that.

                                You will not be able to ‘integrate’ it with other NL devices.
                                What you mean is probably to ‘connect’ it to…
                                ……in order to start a source directly from the BST.

                                This – sadly – is not yet possible (how long will it take ?)

                                But you can ‘expand’ from another device – this is what I do when I listen to CD’s from the 6500 system->NL/NL Converter.
                                I start playback manually and can then listen on the BST.

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                                MM

                                #38255
                                syrianos82
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                                  I actually have PS5 and Apple TV 4K gen 3

                                  all with hdmi in the BS TH and a single hdmi to earc on an LG G1 and never experienced shut downs. All cec is enabled. Previously the ps5 would turn on when I woke the apple. Tv but not anymore since the devices are routed through the BS TH, maybe the choice of where to connect hdmi influences the cec bug?

                                   

                                  #38256
                                  Millemissen
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                                    Seeems that only people with PUC’ed devices have the issues, or?

                                    MM

                                    #38257
                                    Sandyb
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                                      yes, my guess is that the issue is there for people with HDMI devices that are PUC’d but also have CEC i.e a clash between the two. Just a guess though.

                                       

                                      #38258
                                      NQVHNWI
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                                        Im not 100% certain if that is the problem. Maybe/maybe not?

                                        Going back to the first few days of owning my BST, I linked an Oppo BR with the BST and it worked but was painfully slow to move to icon to icon. In terms of response speed if observed (with no inexplicable shutdown):-

                                        1st PUC only

                                        2nd CEC only

                                        3rd PUC and CEC

                                        I think that the CEC protocol is for a very basic set of controls which help legacy devices (non-B&O) and best not used if you can have a PUC control.

                                        #38259
                                        BeoMedia
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                                          Mine is fine but I only have the LG connected via HDMI. As for speakers I have 7 wired to the Theatre.
                                          The system works fine but I can’t integrate it with my link NL/ML system. Have heard that a sw update should allow for that.

                                          #38261
                                          Millemissen
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                                            Since the sw version of the LG tv has/can have an effect on the daily use of our BST’s….has anyone installed the new tv sw (was announced yesterday in my case)?

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                                            Not many detail there!

                                            By the way – I have auto update disabled, but the tv announces the new sw every time I turn on the tv (untill now I klicked ‘no’).
                                            But can you avoid this, if you want to stay on the current and only do a manual search, if you want to?

                                            MM

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