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  • #38008
    NQVHNWI
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      remark about joining sources connected to the BLC (Beolink NL/ML converter): …….. I do not know with certainty this will work for the Theatre…… I expect direct access from the Theatre .

      A lot of these setups are complex and to understand them as a 3rd party is difficult as you cant simulate all the effects etc….So, this is my best assumption based on a lot of Beolink info I do not recollect as well as I used to do.

      Connecting the BC3000 >> BLC >> A6. This is a Beo4 to BR1 link protocol to 2 different generations of devices. Natively, there is no direct BR1 button mapping and its a scroll-thru of sources (B&O Radio > DNLA > Spotify > Bluetooth >>>>>). If The BLC has direct BR1 to Beo4 mapping, it may or may not work in a BeoApp system. (Depends if the A6 can receive BT commands from the BR1 I guess?)

      The A6 is NL and is controllable via the BeoApp.

      The Theatre is controllable via the BeoApp.

      Picture1

      I would imagine that once you link the Theatre/A6 in the BeoApp (Box 1), volume sliders (Box2) can be adjusted to Theatre and/or A6 and the base-level sources of the A6/Theatre are marked in the 3 dots section.

      So in essence, limited control with the BR1 at best. You may get CD track up/down, volume up/down…..but that’s as far as I can take it?

      A rabbit warren of control protocols of 3 generations of product??

      #38009
      NQVHNWI
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        MM,

        Working on our posts concurrently. Your explanation is much clearer.

        #38010
        Millemissen
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          Those of us, who can’t wait for the guys in Struer to ‘sort this out’, could use following workaround.

          Set up an M3 with the output level set to 0/zero – this way it won’t interfere soundwise, when you start the above described sequenze.

          Some of us already (mis)use an M3 to have playback of a Beogram vinyl in the link.
          So this would be kind of killing two birds with one stone ?
          And the M3 is an affordable device!

          And if you – like me – prefer wired connections in order to have as little stress on the Wifi as possible, just use a USB to RJ45/Network adapter with the M3.

          MM

          #37998
          splud
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            My Beoremote stopped working, so I did a factory reset on the remote and now it wont pair with the Theatre app, anyone know a fix? I have followed all the instructions but they just don’t sync?

            Thanks and Happy New Year! 🙂

            #38011
            Carolpa
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              This is what I currently do (actually right now), if I want to listen to a CD (from the System 6500): I put in the Cd in the tray of the 6500, went to my M3 (using the app) and choose CD. Then I could expand to the Theatre. When I go back to the Theatre (in the app) it shows the converter. See pictures. 84AF3000-3EA7-49F8-8D50-73E6CB071D32F0BB9840-1B6C-435C-AB2B-5E76CEB611F6 So it is possible to make the connection. I can even skip tracks with the remote. In addition: turning off with the remote turns off the Theatre – long press turns of everyhing including the BM/CD6500……as should be. What I mean is, that they just have to make it possible to make the settings in the Theatre, that allows for the direct access from there and using the BROne. MM

              Correct, that is the way already for a long time (as described before). But the “Product Integration”/”Linked to other product” must be reintroduced to the Theatre (as f.e. the BV11/V1). That was the way to remote control linked sources!

              or they must find an alternative way ………

              #37999
              splud
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                At the moment I use a Nvidia Shield for a Plex playback to the LG G2 as I also use Hue lighting which requires a HDMI pass-through on a Sync box to work. How ever you then have to use the Nvidia remote as there is no PUC for it.

                I’m thinking of replacing the Nvidia player with an Apple 4K one as I can attached a PUC to control it from the Theatre using the Beoremote, run the HDMI through the Hue sync box which then will go to the LG G2.

                My question is, will the Apple work using the Beoremote via the Theatre PUC, but connecting is straight to the LG screen?

                Many thanks.

                #38000
                Carolpa
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                  Sounds like your system is working the same as mine. Perhaps the Theatre does not directly support the converter.

                  remark about joining sources connected to the BLC (Beolink NL/ML converter):

                  for example: start the BS3000 CD which is a linked source on the Beoplay A6. So the A6 is starting to reproduce the music of the CD. To join in other devices one should expect that joining the A6 would do the trick. But not all devices will follow.

                  To overcome this phenomenon, change from the A6 to the BLC as active device in the home screen of the B&o app. Then click the “link to” icon on the app and join the other devices to the BLC.

                  Note: I do not know with certainty this will work for the Theatre also.

                   

                  With Beoliving and Beoremote Halo, I expect direct access from the Theatre to a BLC connected Beosound CD should be possible (as with all Beolink and BeoControllink devices).

                   

                  #38012
                  BeoMedia
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                    Is/Was this the same issue with BeoSound Stage? How quickly did they resolve it for that product or is it still not possible to chose an audio source from the ML system on the Stage either?

                    #38001
                    Razlaw
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                      Thanks! Although it would be nice if pressing CD on the BR1 would start the CD through the Theatre, as it does with my V1 and Essence. Sounds like to get the same direct functionality with the Theatre as the V1 and Essence have, a BLI is needed. I can’t remember the last time I listened to a CD, but do like having the option, and a little B and O magic having the old integrated with new.

                      #38002
                      Millemissen
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                        I can’t imagine that a BLI should be needed – to me it seems more a function that has not yet been implemented with the Mozart platform.

                        Let us keep asking them to do so!

                        MM

                        #38003
                        NQVHNWI
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                          I can’t imagine that a BLI should be needed – to me it seems more a function that has not yet been implemented with the Mozart platform. Let us keep asking them to do so! MM

                          Probably, but thinking about it – and I may be wrong on this…..I think the BLI has a cross-mapping function for different controls and commands – thus making it easier to implement right now?

                          #38013
                          Millemissen
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                            Now where is that bl**dy ‘Picture Mute’ button ☹️

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                            The player has a somewhat decent UI – however, I do not want to look at that screen the whole album through.
                            Can’t be good in terms of screen burn-in.

                            In the depths of the WebOS settings there are is a ‘Picture Off’’ for this – and you can even map that to a button on the magic remote.
                            It must be possible for the ‘guys in Struer’ to give us a P.Mute ‘button’ on the BROne for the Theatre.

                            MM

                            #38014
                            Carolpa
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                              The player has a somewhat decent UI – however, I do not want to look at that screen the whole album through.

                              The BR1 “List” feature doesn’t show the command “Show Picture” (as the Harmony or Eclipse)?

                              Your player doesn’t have an “AUDIO only” setting?

                              #38015
                              Sandyb
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                                What player is that by the way?

                                just asking out of interest…

                                #38016
                                Millemissen
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                                  That is a Sony UHD player (which I have choosen because it supports playback of SACD’s).

                                  It might (or might not) have an option of turning off the screen/a audio only setting.
                                  I would have to look in the manual for this.
                                  Never unpacked the remote, because I don’t use it…..it is PUC’ed.
                                  So even if there should be a button there, it does not help me.

                                  The problem is, that – with the Theatre – you have no display of the PUC-mapping of the original buttons, like we used to have on previous BV’s.
                                  So no help there either ?

                                  And – P.Mute ought to be a universal function, because it also is needed, if you listen to music only via the ATV or from the mediaplayer (or other music apps) of the tv.

                                  MM

                                  #38017
                                  Sandyb
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                                    Thanks, and yes I agree, it shouldn’t be beyond the realms for the Picture mute to be implemented.

                                    Not something that is relevant to my music use case, but I can definitely see the need for it.

                                    #38021
                                    Millemissen
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                                      Thanks a lot!
                                      No such entry in my Theatre List (also the Multiview entry is not there).
                                      I guess the List is case sensitive depending on the product (and the settings of the product).

                                      Then again – if it was possible with the previous LG based BV’s, why shouldn’t it be so with the Theatre combo!

                                      MM

                                      #38018
                                      Carolpa
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                                        And – P.Mute ought to be a universal function, because it also is needed, if you listen to music only via the ATV or from the mediaplayer (or other music apps) of the tv.

                                        your BR1 doesn’t show the Show Picture command, as stated above (= P.Mute)

                                        #38019
                                        Millemissen
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                                          And – P.Mute ought to be a universal function, because it also is needed, if you listen to music only via the ATV or from the mediaplayer (or other music apps) of the tv.

                                          your BR1 doesn’t show the Show Picture command, as stated above (= P.Mute)

                                          I am not sure what you mean.
                                          Could you be a bit more specific, where to look for that.
                                          A picture of yours showing that would be helpfull.

                                          MM

                                          #38020
                                          Carolpa
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