[BeoMedia]

I have a basic question related to Room Sense as I haven’t found any user manual.

When performing Room Sense with the microphone connected etc, what settings should the speakers be set to: Free, Wall or Corner?

And for BeoLab 2 which further has settings for connected speakers 1, 2 or 3?

I’d be grateful if someone has had advice from B&O about this and could share it

 

[NQVHNWI]

As far as I can collect from all the information sources, Switchable Beolabs should be set to “Free”. The Theatre will judge to bass-boost response caused by walls and corners etc…against the reference

The speaker Presets: I believe relate to the BL90/50/28 with switchable beam control. 0 to 8.

0= Auto, 1 = Narrow, 2 = Wide, 3 = Omni, 4 – 8 Future?

With no “Official” information so far from B&O, all this is my current belief.

[Millemissen]

You should set all speakers (with such a setting option) to free.
This is how they were measured in Struer, before adding the values to the BS Theatre for the Room Sense process.

A BL2 (or any sub) should be connected with its own PL (with no daisychaining to other BL’s).….otherweise the BS Theatre will not know which values to use, when Room Sensing.

According to the BL2 manual, it should be set to 3, since it is connected seperately to the system:

“If you have a Dolby Digital system, and
therefore no speakers are directly connected to
BeoLab 2, we recommend that you set the
SETUP switch to 3”.

MM

[beojeff]

splud wrote:

How do you manually add a speaker connected to the Receiver 1? Thanks

You cannot include the Receiver 1 in the speaker group when performing Room Sense or Room Sense will completely fail. After you create the listening position with Room Sense without the Receiver 1, you select the listening position, touch the three dots in the upper right corner, and then select Advanced settings. This will allow you to then select the Receiver 1 to include in the speaker group. However, you must manually input all values for the speaker — it isn’t automatically calculated by Room Sense. This feature was added in the latest version of the B&O app.

[Hutsefruts]

Hi

As a fresh new owner using it a couple a days now i see the Beosound Theatre does evidently not handle DTS audio streams? Is that correct? No sound from several movie files I’m runing of which I expect they only have DTS audio inside as audio stream.

Any chance if so that DTS audio capability (codec) becomes available later on? (license cost of it should be peanuts i guess).

Furthermore, very satisfied and curious about further developments as this product matures in the near future

[Severed_hand_of_skywalker]

Hutsefruts wrote:

Hi As a fresh new owner using it a couple a days now i see the Beosound Theatre does evidently not handle DTS audio streams? Is that correct? No sound from several movie files I’m runing of which I expect they only have DTS audio inside as audio stream. Any chance if so that DTS audio capability (codec) becomes available later on? (license cost of it should be peanuts i guess). Furthermore, very satisfied and curious about further developments as this product matures in the near future

Correct is does not and I wouldn’t hold my breath on it. Not sure they can even add the feature without billing us customers after the fact?

[NQVHNWI]

I think B&O have been hammered endlessly in the past for going their own way with standards and have listened it seems to their customers and integrated the “current hot potato” of movie sound formats: Dolby Atmos.

People can argue this way or that but despite the success of the BS Theatre, and it’s price point, they won’t be selling thousands of them like the mainstream manufacturers. As a consequence, I guess they needed to lockdown a design and a licence, rather than trying to buy them (formats) all in.

[Mark]

What’s interesting is that the Harmony and Eclipse supports DTS but the Contour does not. DTS is not that big of a deal for me since I have an LG G2 that does not support DTS, but it would be nice to have it on the Theatre. I could plug the device directly into the Theatre which is a really nice option.

[beojeff]

Most blu-ray/UHD players should be able to decode the DTS and then send sound to the Theatre. Where we really need the Theatre for decoding is with DTS:X and the new DTS:X Pro formats.

I think that B&O is making a mistake in listening to claims that only Dolby and Dolby Atmos are the only formats needed because DTS is hardly ever used in streaming (excepting the Kaleidescape system — which is a difference creature altogether and more downloading than streaming). For people with lower-end audio systems, streaming might be fine. However, with higher performing speakers that you get with B&O you can tell a HUGE, MASSIVE difference between streaming and physical disc (or Kaleidescape). In looking through my huge blu-ray/UHD collection, I was surprised to see how many titles really do use DTS.

[Mark]

I didn’t even think that my 4K players have DTS! I bought a Panasonic 4k player out of fear that when my Oppo 203 dies, there wouldn’t be any good players left.

Since some of the BeoVisions support DTS, is it really a licensing issue for the Theatre?

 

[beojeff]

Mr10Percent wrote:

I think B&O have been hammered endlessly in the past for going their own way with standards and have listened it seems to their customers and integrated the “current hot potato” of movie sound formats: Dolby Atmos. People can argue this way or that but despite the success of the BS Theatre, and it’s price point, they won’t be selling thousands of them like the mainstream manufacturers. As a consequence, I guess they needed to lockdown a design and a licence, rather than trying to buy them (formats) all in.

Do you see many DTS:X movies on your new Kaleidescape?

[NQVHNWI]

Ok, not easy to give a definitive answer but just did a limited search “new year release” I.e films to be for sale in January. (These are not necessarily new titles – they may be titles that have been released with an upgrade (film definition or sound format or add-ons like directors cut etc….).

180 titles.

112 DTS-HD
46 DTS- TrueHD
55 Atmos
135 PCM
1 DTS-X of which in terms of video quality:-

180 HD
100 UHD+
81 HDR

Finally, I’m not sure of this, with “limited KalWorld forums” in UK/EU, the sharing of technical info is limited but I believe the Player throttles both sound and vision to the receiving equipment or cable limit. That does not mean if you do not have an Atmos receiver, Kaleidescape downscales to another format your receiver can play…say DTS….it probably falls off a cliff and plays PCM. To be honest….too technical for me.

[NQVHNWI]

Beojeff,

I have heard this problem from someone on the forum. I do not experience the issues you discribe above on my G2 Panel.

I suggested previously that people check the LG screen functions. IIRC, there are two settings for quick-start (quick start+ and the 2nd I cant find 🙁 or not sure if its a combo of another setting plus quick start+)

This may help, but I think others reported it did not?

[NQVHNWI]

Incidentally, I think Millemissen was asking about muting the picture?

I dont think this is the exact same thing, but again in the LG Panel settings, energy savings, you can kill the picture off.

I dont think this can be mapped to the BR1 except for MyButtons but maybe a feature request?

[beojeff]

The list of DTS:X blu-ray/UHD movies is pretty long. Included in the list are the Harry Potter movies, Fifty Shades movies, Jason Bourne movies, and Jurassic Park movies.

[Millemissen]

Muting the picture would be for when you listen to music, that comes from a video source e.g. a Bluray Player or the ATV/Apple Music….
…..and just want sound.

This was part of previous BV’s, called ‘P.Mute’.

I can imagine that this will be hard to achieve with the seperated LG screen – nonetheless I asked…..just in case there should be a solution.

MM

[NQVHNWI]

Missing your point? Please clarify?

[NQVHNWI]

The only other way to do it is to thumb-down List >> Options OSM and continue to thumb down to power savings, screen off.

I know of P.mute as per previous Beovisions. That is why there is no direct mapping to a function within the LG settings. Im sure B&O will get on with it as the last update before EoL of the Theatre?

Edit: Which, given the problems they have incurred with a lot of early LG panels having burn-in issues, you would think they implement as a lesson learnt (and you did buy a Beosound – not a Beovision)

[beojeff]

I was suggesting some titles that you might look up on the Kaleidescape store to see if the best possible sound quality is DTS:X. Kaleidescape is dedicated to providing the best movie experience at home (or on a yacht, lol) so that’s a good source to see how we need to be able to get the most out of our B&O audio and video.

[etype76]

I’m following this thread in a linear fashion and picking up some great info so sorry if I’m throwing out Qs that seem to be off topic.

What kind of expectations can I have regarding sound quality through the Line-in adaptor? As I said previously, increasing the gain on my phono pre-amp helped but still it’s not great. Some muddiness and the cracks and pops are pretty audible over my previous system. It’s making me think about changing my pre-amp but I wonder if that adapter will always be the weakest link to play from a Beogram.

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