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  • #37653
    Beo911
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      Reading and understanding the Technical Sound Guide of BS Theatre and BL90 may help … will try to do that the next days.

      Do you have a link for this? I know of the TV/surround guides but not for the Theatre specifically?

      My fault … dealer sent me some documentary and i saw the BL90 technical sound guide and i also read BS Theatre in the file names … but no sound guide for the BS Theatre available so far.

      #37654
      Beo911
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        To be more precise about my Powerlink issue with the Theatre:

        When i have the BL90 connected and setup in the App as Powerlink, the room compensation measurement process for a 5.1 speakergroup using the microphone is stopped as soon as the signal hits the Powerlink connected BL90’s. It works though, when the BL90’s are set up and connected as wireless to the Theatre in the App. Then it is possible to get a room corrected speaker group preset and the process functions as expected.

        #37655
        svendsen991
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          I wanted to use the BS Core for listening to music (only) through a dedicated source/transport. When i listened to BL90’s in the B&O store using a BV Harmony compared to using a budget Bluesound Vault2 directly feeding the BL90’s via coax the same day, it sounded better without the TV in the chain.

          That’s why i wanted to try the Core. TV and movies is not my priority with the BL90’s … for me it is 90% stereo music, und 10% surround music playing live concerts etc.. What would you suggest in order to exploit the best sound possible out of the BL90’s in stereo and alternatively in a 5.1 or 5.2 setup? I would think, that the BL90’s should benefit from a decent source feeding them.

          You should be able to setup a listening position on your Theatre with only the Beolab 90, then you have a B90 only stereo setup with the Theatre acting like a Mozart “BS Core” 🙂

          #37656
          Beo911
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            I wanted to use the BS Core for listening to music (only) through a dedicated source/transport. When i listened to BL90’s in the B&O store using a BV Harmony compared to using a budget Bluesound Vault2 directly feeding the BL90’s via coax the same day, it sounded better without the TV in the chain.

            That’s why i wanted to try the Core. TV and movies is not my priority with the BL90’s … for me it is 90% stereo music, und 10% surround music playing live concerts etc.. What would you suggest in order to exploit the best sound possible out of the BL90’s in stereo and alternatively in a 5.1 or 5.2 setup? I would think, that the BL90’s should benefit from a decent source feeding them.

            You should be able to setup a listening position on your Theatre with only the Beolab 90, then you have a B90 only stereo setup with the Theatre acting like a Mozart “BS Core” ?

            Still would not solve my issue, as it is only possible connecting the BL90 as wireless to the Theatre, creating a room corrected speaker group. And in addition to that, i’d have to deactivate the Theatre speakers in the configuration menu of the speaker group, in order to get pure stereo mode.

            #37657
            Beo911
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              … wireless has restricted/less resolution.

              #37658
              svendsen991
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                … wireless has restricted/less resolution.

                I might have missed something, but can’t you just connect the Beolap 90’s with powerlink to your Theatre? Or is it because you want optical or similar instead? 🙂

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                NQVHNWI
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                  To be more precise about my Powerlink issue with the Theatre: When i have the BL90 connected and setup in the App as Powerlink, the room compensation measurement process for a 5.1 speakergroup using the microphone is stopped as soon as the signal hits the Powerlink connected BL90’s. It works though, when the BL90’s are set up and connected as wireless to the Theatre in the App. Then it is possible to get a room corrected speaker group preset and the process functions as expected.

                  Ive just been playing with this very aspect (I think).

                  This is what I have done so far, and have yet to test it critically.

                  1. Listening Positions parameters
                  2. Run Room Sense BSTH/BL90/BL3 surround setup. Speaker Preset to 0 (Auto). Rename to “Video”. Set as Start-up Default 5.1
                  3. Re-Run Room Sense but with BSTH/BL3 omitted i.e. BL90 Only. Speaker Preset to 1 (Narrow beam I think). Rename to Narrow
                  4. Duplicate BL90 Narrow Listening position, Rename to wide, Speaker Preset to 2 (wide beam)
                  5. As above for Omni, Speaker Preset to 3

                  There is a bug in the Beoapp that can only display 1.5 buttons for listening positions. However, if I have this right, you can operate BL90s in true narrow mode with two front loudspeakers only, and flick into Video mode, with the correct delays/sync and fire-up all loudspeaker sets including the BSTH.

                  If you are firing up the BL90s from a 3rd Party device, they (I think) operate with the original calibration installed from the BL90 room Sense and not that of the Theatre.

                  Again, I have asked B&O to look into this and sort-out the mish-mash they have now made.

                  As a final note, please connect your BL90s via Powerlink rather than WISA. They and your ears deserve them.

                   

                   

                  #37660
                  Beo911
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                    … wireless has restricted/less resolution.

                    I might have missed something, but can’t you just connect the Beolap 90’s with powerlink to your Theatre? Or is it because you want optical or similar instead? ?

                    I can, but if i do so, the room compensation process via the BS Theatre can not be applied. I have to connect the BL90 in wireless mode (WISA) to have that feature working. It ‘s a software bug/failure.

                    And of course i wan’t to run the BL90’s wired via Powerlink to get the maximum sound quality out of them.

                    #37661
                    Severed_hand_of_skywalker
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                      New software update for BST today. 2.3.4. No indication what’s new.

                       

                      Ooops I saw someone mentioned this yesterday.

                      #37662
                      Beo911
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                        There was also an update for BL90 yesterday.

                        #37663
                        NQVHNWI
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                          There was also an update for BL90 yesterday.

                          I’m still stuck on v3.1.0.1187 (april 22). What V. are you now showing?

                          #37664
                          Beo911
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                            The version from 03/22 was v0.23.699

                             

                            The latest version says v3.1.0 and was rolled out yesterday. If you have your settings on auto-update, you should have the same version.

                            #37665
                            NQVHNWI
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                              Thanks for confirming. Yes I’m on auto update but v3.1.0 as far as I can ascertain is from April this year.

                              I may be wrong on this but I think

                              3.1.0 = BL90 firmware

                              v0.23.699 = BeoApp control??

                              #37666
                              355f
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                                My Theatre arrived today following a problematic eclipse that B&O was good enough to resolve.

                                First problem is that the visa mount for the 55 does not fit the LG G1 maybe LG changed the locating screws for the G2?? panel; its to short, missing the top location studs, so the guys fabricated a metal insert to allow the top screws to locate.

                                Setting up was seamless enough but when doing so to change the stand position it asks to re- calibrate via the mic all over again and wont allow anything else?

                                The app is not that intuitive but i suppose i will get used too it

                                The motorised stand now has one operating plane; not two as in the eclipse, this means the tv stays away from the wall by quite some distance, meaning its eal life movement is not that much.

                                I exchanged for this product as i did not want to get caught with another out of date beovision after only 6 months.

                                Sound wise, its very good; although im really not getting the ‘surround experience’ in appropriate films at all.

                                Matched with Lab 28 the soundstage opens up; i would not be happy with just the theatre for that reason alone as for B&O suggesting a sound ‘triangle’ with lab 28 at the rear; it would not work for me,one is to aware of the sound being ‘in front’ and the app is quirky and keeps stating its ‘offline’

                                 

                                #37635
                                Beo911
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                                  My Theatre was delivered on Friday and i hooked it up with my Beolab 90’s cabled via Powerlink. I also borrowed a BS Core for testing and paired it to the BL90’s and the Theatre.

                                  Now the Theatre won’t recognize the PL-Connection automatically … looks like a software bug. If i want to watch TV i have to choose wireless mode for the BL90’s via Beo-App … switching to music via Core using the BL90’s only requires interaction with the app again, in order to switch back to Powerlink input again manually.

                                  Any ideas? Could be my faulty work, too of course.

                                  Cheers

                                  Tom

                                  #37636
                                  DHA
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                                    Does anyone have a white noise/hiss from the centre speaker in their theatre?

                                    im trying to troubleshoot mine. It’s not source caused as it happens on all sources and with nothing connected. Have performed a reboot and factory reset but no improvement

                                    #37637
                                    NQVHNWI
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                                      I have the Theatre, BL90, BL3 in my system . It all works (to an extent), set up in the classical way. The only thing that is different is the core? What is that used for and how is it connected and controlled?

                                      #37638
                                      svendsen991
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                                        My Theatre was delivered on Friday and i hooked it up with my Beolab 90’s cabled via Powerlink. I also borrowed a BS Core for testing and paired it to the BL90’s and the Theatre. Now the Theatre won’t recognize the PL-Connection automatically … looks like a software bug. If i want to watch TV i have to choose wireless mode for the BL90’s via Beo-App … switching to music via Core using the BL90’s only requires interaction with the app again, in order to switch back to Powerlink input again manually. Any ideas? Could be my faulty work, too of course. Cheers Tom

                                        What is the benefit of adding the core?

                                        The Theatre already has Mozart so it can be a music system as well. I don’t have a BS Core so I don’t know if the old ASE platform still has some tricks up its sleeve 🙂

                                        #37639
                                        NQVHNWI
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                                          Does anyone have a white noise/hiss from the centre speaker in their theatre? im trying to troubleshoot mine. It’s not source caused as it happens on all sources and with nothing connected. Have performed a reboot and factory reset but no improvement

                                           

                                          Please give a description of connections of sources and cables. Sounds like there is some dirty noise getting into your system?

                                          #37667
                                          Beo911
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                                            Thanks for confirming. Yes I’m on auto update but v3.1.0 as far as I can ascertain is from April this year. I may be wrong on this but I think 3.1.0 = BL90 firmware v0.23.699 = BeoApp

                                            This is what i get:

                                            1. Latest SW version BL90

                                            2. Previous SW version BL90

                                            3. Latest SW version Beo-App

                                             

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