[BeoMedia]

Speaker roles: I would have thought that middle ceiling speaker is a must for Atmos, is this not supported by the Theatre? I have downloaded the user manual but it is limited on information.

Questions:

1) does the Theatre support 8K as it is today or will it require hardware updates?

2) which provides best ease of use and control and sound and picture quality, to connect external sources to the Theatre or to the television?

3) can the Theatre control an LG CX? I find the user manual unclear as it states “newer than CX”, does that include or exclude the CX?

4) how many speakers can be wired to the theatre, I see 4 RJ45 powerlink, is it fair to assume 8 speakers? And can one assign any speaker position combination for each RJ45 or will they need to be in pairs i.e. front left and right as opposed to a subwoofer and a center speaker?

5) is the user experience once all is setup easy like BeoVisions normally are so that all members of the family can use the system?

[svendsen991]

Severed_hand_of_skywalker wrote:

How does one get the BeoRemote to work with Apple TV without IR? HDMI control should do it right? But how I set that up?

Mr10Percent is correct it’s controllable over CEC. The search button doesn’t exist on the Beoremote One and the Screen/home button (A.TV) is bound to the home/house button on the beo remote when not connected to the LG B&O APP. It should be plug and play if enabled on TV and A. TV (should be by default on LG and A. TV).

Note some TV’s have trouble with more than 3 playback devices on CEC like LG (CEC design problem). Though Sony has been observed to handle it better. Lucky enough most people don’t have more than 3 playback devices but if that’s the case PUC can connect two extra devices 🙂

[svendsen991]

BeoMedia wrote:

Speaker roles: I would have thought that middle ceiling speaker is a must for Atmos, is this not supported by the Theatre? I have downloaded the user manual but it is limited on information. Questions: 1) does the Theatre support 8K as it is today or will it require hardware updates? 2) which provides best ease of use and control and sound and picture quality, to connect external sources to the Theatre or to the television? 3) can the Theatre control an LG CX? I find the user manual unclear as it states “newer than CX”, does that include or exclude the CX? 4) how many speakers can be wired to the theatre, I see 4 RJ45 powerlink, is it fair to assume 8 speakers? And can one assign any speaker position combination for each RJ45 or will they need to be in pairs i.e. front left and right as opposed to a subwoofer and a center speaker? 5) is the user experience once all is setup easy like BeoVisions normally are so that all members of the family can use the system?

1) Yes it support 8K passthrough (4K 120FPS / 8K 60FPS / 40Gbit source) but note the cable requirements for 8K is quite high and you need an insanely big screen size to benefit the 4*4K 🙂

2) I don’t quite follow

3) CX should be supported I have tested a GX and it works. It should have similar internals as the CX.

4) Yes for wired speakers you can connect 8 speakers (Left Right channel in each powerlink plug). You can either daisy chain (only some beolab speakers support it) else you can buy splitters. Note you can also connect up to 8 wireless over WiSA

5) Sadly I have little to no experience with the old BeoVisions. So hopefully another kind spirit can help you 🙂

[NQVHNWI]

BeoMedia wrote:

1a) I would have thought that middle ceiling speaker is a must for Atmos, is this not supported by the Theatre?

1b) does the Theatre support 8K as it is today or will it require hardware updates? As far as

2) which provides best ease of use and control and sound and picture quality, to connect external sources to the Theatre or to the television?

3) can the Theatre control an LG CX? I find the user manual unclear as it states “newer than CX”, does that include or exclude the CX?

4a) how many speakers can be wired to the theatre, I see 4 RJ45 powerlink, is it fair to assume 8 speakers?

4b)And can one assign any speaker position combination for these or will they need to be in pairs

5) is the user experience once all is setup easy like BeoVisions normally are so that all members of the family can use the system?

To the best of my current knowledge:-

1a) I would not get too hung-up on the Atmos thing. It is just a trendy Studio Algo to distribute the sound auralally to give a 3D soundstage. The BSTH does a good job but for me, one is not much different than another??

1b) I dont know about 8K. I hear that the EU in its wisdom has effectively banned 8K because of the significantly greater power consumption. I know both my Eclipse and G2 panel is enough to heat my apartments living space to 21degC!!

2) It depends, but you can connect 3 additional HDMI inputs to the Theatre (HDMI 2 is the eARC to the panel). In my instance, I connect HDMI to the BSTH where I need PUC Control. However, I believe that if you use peripheral equipment with the HDMI-CEC standard, I think it makes no difference where it is connected as it a unifying/integrating standard? I think BSTH/LG G2 Panel have 4 HDMI’s each – of which HDMI B/HDMI2 is reserved for eARC comms.

3) I think only the C2 and G2 Panels are supported. With LG, you need to download the B&O LG App to enable remote control via BR1. I dont know if this LG app is compatible with the CX. But you can test this now I think?

4a) the way the Beoapp seems to work is you can add 4 sets of wired speakers and I think 4 pairs of WISA speakers. When I do a quick test to do a new wired speaker config with a BL2 first, I can add only 1 BL90 to the BL2. I cant add a pair. So I imagine you use 1 of 4 connections adding a subwoofer.

4b) When you add a speaker, you add to that speaker 1 extra unit. This can be identical model, a different model (i.e. BL90 – Front Left and BL3 – Front Right) or it can be solo (just a Bl90 Front left)

5. Like all recent Beovision setups, the operating system is involved. Sound modes, Advanced Sound modes, Listening Positions, Sub Cross-over, distances, steering etc… Also add that you can programme Sound setup to a given source. However, once you have done this, the Beoapp or BR1 makes it very simple to operate. I have added Amazon Music, Prime Video, Netflix, Oppo 103, TV, Radio, Youtube etc….to my system. It all now works with a simple press on the BR1 exactly as I want it. (and more importantly, the Wife gets a device with a simple interaction – on/off/ chan up/down/ vol up/down).

 

 

[beojeff]

Control with HDMI-CEC works well enough. However, once you add the PUC control, the HDMI input gets renamed to “Apple TV” on the Beoremote One and you get a list of functions for the controlled device under “List” on the Beoremote One. There’s not much in the list for the Apple TV, but for a device like a Sony UHD player, this List menu comes in really useful.

[NQVHNWI]

Millemissen wrote:

beojeff wrote:

-The speaker roles are noticeably limited when compared with what’s available on the Beosystem 4. For example, I was going to add more speakers for the Wide roles, but Wide is not an option for external speakers. Also, there is no role for middle hight speakers — only front and back height. The Dolby Atmos setup diagrams provide for the additional “left and right surround 1” roles — a back counterpart to the front “wide” roles. However, those roles are not options.

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Which are the possible ‘Speaker Roles’ at time being? Can you set up the system (the speaker connections) manually and make a micophone calibration after that?

MM

there are two levels to consider. Speaker Roles and Sound mode. Speaker Roles can be edited in terms of positioning (either at listening height, or those above).

Sound Roles are TV, Music, Movies, Games, Night and Beosonic. As you drill down to each of these roles, you enter Beosonic/advance to change role tones and ambience. The sound roles can be edited and save but only as the list above . You cannot add/delete these default roles

[svendsen991]

Mr10Percent wrote:

3) I think only the C2 and G2 Panels are supported. With LG, you need to download the B&O LG App to enable remote control via BR1. I dont know if this LG app is compatible with the CX. But you can test this now I think?

Found CX, C1, C2, GX, G1 and G2 are supported source 🙂

Mr10Percent wrote:

4a) the way the Beoapp seems to work is you can add 4 sets of wired speakers and I think 4 pairs of WISA speakers. When I do a quick test to do a new wired speaker config with a BL2 first, I can add only 1 BL90 to the BL2. I cant add a pair. So I imagine you use 1 of 4 connections adding a subwoofer.
4b) When you add a speaker, you add to that speaker 1 extra unit. This can be identical model, a different model (i.e. BL90 – Front Left and BL3 – Front Right) or it can be solo (just a Bl90 Front left)

You should be able to add 8 single channels but my guess is BL90 and BL50 is always a pair. Thus occupying both left and right channel. A single subwoofer should only occupy one channel 🙂

[Clandrel]

Hi guys,

Just received my Theatre and it amazing. Especially together with the Beolab 19.

But I miss a broader sound field and do not have space for Beolab 18 or 28.

What are your recommendations when it comes to adding a L & R to the theatre? They need to be as discreet as possible.

Beolab 3 (cabled)

Beolab 4000 (cabled)

Beosound Balance/Essense/Level (if they release SW).

Thanks!

//C

 

 

[NQVHNWI]

Once you have loaded the app via the LG interface or added devices to the HDMI inputs….

Product Settings >> BeoRemote >> select remote. This list appears….

You can show 10 sources in TV and 10 in music. You can handle and slide each source into order. You can also slide to the hide list

 

[DHA]

Picked my theatre up yesterday. I am using a Sony A8 panel, so purchased the VESA mount kit and the table stand to allow for fitment.

The instructions are not great if you are attaching a panel, the paper instructions send you to the instal video – which is all well and good but when you need to keep referring back to part of the process it is a faff to keep rewinding a video on your phone. The VESA height guide cardboard wasn’t identical to the one in the video either, so it took a couple of attempts at getting the height correct. I’m not 100% happy with the gap between TV and theatre but will need to take it all apart and re-mount the VESA to do this so will see if I can live with it. Also there are bits you miss if you don’t watch the video from the start (i.e. you join it where you are in the install process) having moved from the paper instructions. The glossy panel needs the rear half removed so the VESA mount will attach.

Took around 2 hours to set up which was in part due to the VESA issue. But other than that it was a relatively simple process. However the power cable doesn’t seem that well seated.

I have some non B&O speakers that I am trying to use with the power link connection, but the unit doesn’t recognise these as connected at the moment.

One issue that I seem to have is a noticeable hiss from the unit irrespective of source. Usually only notice it when the output volume is low, but not ideal. Has anyone else noticed this?

[beojeff]

@Mr10Percent,

Thank you! I didn’t know that menu was there. That is very useful.

[NQVHNWI]

Beo911,

OK, lets see if this puts you on a track worth considering…..

1. BV Eclipse (Mk1 with cr@ppy LG Music Player)
2. BL90, Powerlink from BV to BL90
3. Equals cr@appy sound. No other BS product worthy in my opinion – including Core.
4. I purchased an Auarlic G2 stack, feed BL90s via XLR. Happy but have to control 3rd party products which are not fully integrated into B&O Ecosystem.

I added the BL90s to the BeoApp (if you had the original BL90 App – as good – even better). Placed BL90 Line-sense into Automatic. Next Powerlink, XLR, SPDIF etc…Set Thresholds and time-outs.

So for TV, Theatre all works properly with distributed sound. I have communicated to B&O (feedback as Beta user in Theatre-BeoApp) about Wide/Narrow/Omni settings and sync-ing needs some attention.

For the Auralic system, BL90s fires-up, hits narrow mode etc…. I use an Essence Remote in IR mode for volume control, Auralic DAC set to 100% XLR output, use the Auralic App for tracks, albums etc…. BS Core definitely not required or missed.

The only issue I had to watch (not tested on the BSTH yet), is when listening to Auralic music on the BL90, going to Sleep, the BL90s have a 60 sec minimum time-out to Standby. Firing up the Eclipse before the 60sec time-out, it recognised the BL90s as not available. This could be corrected on the BR1 control by List >> Speaker >> Video setting (video in my BR1 was to go to 5.1 sound, with Wide dispersion on the BL90).

Hopefully that helps?

[NQVHNWI]

B&O have just issued a BS Theatre update right now of v2.3.4.

Bugfixes and Stability improvements

[NQVHNWI]

Beo911 wrote:

Reading and understanding the Technical Sound Guide of BS Theatre and BL90 may help … will try to do that the next days.

Do you have a link for this? I know of the TV/surround guides but not for the Theatre specifically?

[Beo911]

Thank you guys, for sharing your experiences.

I’ am going to test some streaming transports within next weeks … thinking about Antipodes K-Series and Grimm MU1, Innuos, Aurender and Nuprime Stream-9 … i could source the above locally and take them home for testing.

I did not buy the Core, just asked the dealer if he cluld lend it to me for a week … and he did.

[DHA]

Mr10Percent wrote:
Please give a description of connections of sources and cables. Sounds like there is some dirty noise getting into your system?

 

Ethernet into the input port then two ethernet cables out (one to Apple TV, the other to xbox series s)

HDMI from TV e-Arc to Theatre, two HDMI inputs A has Apple TV and B has xbox series s

Nothing else connected.

[NQVHNWI]

DHA wrote:

Ethernet into the input port then two ethernet cables out (one to Apple TV, the other to xbox series s) HDMI from TV e-Arc to Theatre, two HDMI inputs A has Apple TV and B has xbox series s Nothing else connected.

So the simple stuff is to disconnect each one of the External device sources at the HDMI/LAN level behind the TV. Im sure you have done this already and I apologise if I come across as trying to teach you to suck eggs!!

Check the eARC. HDMI cable. I dont think the B&O supplied cable is directional but check just in case.

If that does not do anything, try running a long extension lead/power cord and power the BSTH and TV panel from different power sockets on different lines if you can?

The only reason I state this is I had a similar problem with my BL90s in the upper treble domes. (connecting with 3rd party audio separates, cables, and the Beovision). It was a dog to find the fault and only stopped when I plugged my 3rd party separates into a power regenerator to clean the power supply. Something was causing a ground loop hum.

There may be something much simpler (faulty BSTH maybe) but these are first things to test before calling your Dealer.

[SimonWeir]

Does anyone recall what the specific settings for a Sport sound preset are?

This preset was a default option with the Eclipse but not for the Theatre and Stage. I am looking to recreate and save as a user created sound mode, for my Theatre.

I did feel this was a great preset for Football and F1, and with the World Cup, felt I wanted to hear more of the stands and the echo of the stadium.

I am after the specific numbers for: frequency tilt, sound enhancement, speech enhancement plus the bass management, compression etc, as well as surround, height, stage width and envelopment, so I may copy these.

Thank you in advance.

*** update – started a separate post directed at Eclipse/Harmony owners ****

[DHA]

Mr10Percent wrote:

DHA wrote:

Ethernet into the input port then two ethernet cables out (one to Apple TV, the other to xbox series s) HDMI from TV e-Arc to Theatre, two HDMI inputs A has Apple TV and B has xbox series s Nothing else connected.

So the simple stuff is to disconnect each one of the External device sources at the HDMI/LAN level behind the TV. Im sure you have done this already and I apologise if I come across as trying to teach you to suck eggs!! Check the eARC. HDMI cable. I dont think the B&O supplied cable is directional but check just in case. If that does not do anything, try running a long extension lead/power cord and power the BSTH and TV panel from different power sockets on different lines if you can? The only reason I state this is I had a similar problem with my BL90s in the upper treble domes. (connecting with 3rd party audio separates, cables, and the Beovision). It was a dog to find the fault and only stopped when I plugged my 3rd party separates into a power regenerator to clean the power supply. Something was causing a ground loop hum. There may be something much simpler (faulty BSTH maybe) but these are first things to test before calling your Dealer.

Don’t worry don’t think you are teaching to suck eggs. I tried without anything attached yesterday and just the Theatre plugged into the socket in the wall, but still got the issue sadly.

[allanminds]

Hi

I have a problem with aux in, only one channel is playing. I’m using the original b&o supplied cable #6271374.

I’m using the same cable as before with my beosound core, but now just with the b&o mini jack to usb-c cable in to the theatre.

When I plug the minijack into a beoplay m3 and multirom it to the theatre, then both channels are playing.

I also got another minijack to usb-c adapter from my dealer, same problem.

Just tested after new software release, same problem.

Have anyone used the aux with the minijack to usb-c adapter?

 

Best regards

Allan

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