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  • #51909
    eprokos
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      Hello everybody,

      I am facing the following problem:

      I have a Beogram 6500 and a Beosound 9000. These two devices I connect with the line input on the Besound Moment and then stream to Beolab 18.

      Every time I want to change device I have to change the cables. Is there a small but good quality device to change with a button the input?

      Also I want to be able to stream to Beoplay H95 with Bt ( not simultaneously with the Moment)

      So I was thinking that this device should have 2 RCA inputs and 1 RCA outpout & Bt.

      You have any suggestions on that?

      Thank you

      #51910
      Millemissen
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        Why not connect the Beogram directly to the 9000?
        Then you’d need only one connection to the line-in of the Moment.

        As for the BT question – if you ‘only’ want to send from the 9000/Beogram, you could use a BT transmitter with the 9000 headphone connection (which you’d – of course – would have to plug in and out).

        MM

        #51911
        eprokos
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          Good idea!!

          I just need a cable to connect from the Beogram to the Beosound 9000 and then to Moment.

          One less problem.

          Then maybe you know a device than can take as an input the output of the Beosound and choose if it streams to Bt or bypass to Moment?

          Thank you

          #51914
          Guy
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            The BS9000 AUX socket can be an input and output at the same time, but at the very least you’d need one of these cables to do both: https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/11-312-7-pin-aux-splitter-dual-aux-tape-input-sockets.html#/20-length-02m

            And then connect from the adaptor’s second socket to your Beosound Core Moment – I am not sure if Sounds Heavenly provide a cable to do this direct because you need the output to come from DIN pins 1 and 4.

            Alternatively you could take an audio output from one of the BS9000’s Powerlink sockets, remembering that the volume will be variable (which might not be a problem if in A.OPT 0, or you are not using an IR remote. )

            #51915
            eprokos
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              Sorry but I got a bit confused 🙂

              A) connect the beogram 6500 to the https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/11-312-7-pin-aux-splitter-dual-aux-tape-input-sockets.html#/20-length-02m

              B) connect the above splitter to Beosound 9000 in the Aux port

              C) get the other end of the splitter and connect it to a Bt transmitter

              D) Get a https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/110-329-5-pin-din-to-twin-rca-powerlink-compatible-to-non-bo-hifi-amplifier-receiver-etc-din-to-twin-phono.html#/2-length-1m and connect to the powerlink of BS9000 to the BS Moment

              correct??

              #51916
              Guy
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                correct??

                Yes. This will provide a fixed BS9000 line-level output to the BT transmitter, and a variable output to the Moment (I said Core by mistake earlier, sorry). The only difficulty is making sure that the connector from the splitter to the BT transmitter is from the DIN output pins (1&4) rather than the input pins (3&5). Many people find it easier to use a lead like this which provides both inputs and outputs: https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/154-2336-5-pin-din-to-4-x-rca-input-and-output-cable-for-bo-naim-quad.html#/2-length-1m

                If there are no Powerlink speakers connected directly to the BS9000, I think you will also need one of these to maintain remote control: https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/141-2309-beosound-9000-speaker-sense-adapter-gives-remote-control-functions-when-no-speakers-are-connected.html#/18-colour-black

                It is probably worth contacting Steve at Sounds Heavenly to confirm (or otherwise) that my suggestions will work!

                #51917
                eprokos
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                  I already emailed him

                  Hope this works 🙂

                  Amazing help, thank you!!

                  #51912
                  Millemissen
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                    You already have the cable needed for connecting the Beogram to the 9000…..unless this was changed!
                    It is the normal datalink cable, that is mounted on every BG6500 (DIN 7 pin).

                    I do not know of any such device – as said……..plug in and out manually, when needed.
                    These BT adapter (transmitter with minijack for the headphone connection) can easily be found online.
                    I am not sure how good they are, though!

                    MM

                    #51918
                    Millemissen
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                      @Guy

                      The ‘fixed BS9000 line-level output to the BT transmitter’ worries me.
                      How would you control the volume for the headphones in that case?

                      MM

                      #51913
                      eprokos
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                        You are right. There is the cable.

                        So new thought is to connect the 6500 to the 9000 with the integrated cable

                        Then from the 9000 to make a cable with two pairs or RCA. One pair to Moment. Second pair to a Bt Transmitter. Is this possible?

                         

                        Thank you

                        #51922
                        eprokos
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                          I was thinking that the headphones would be able to control the volume output of the BT transmitter. Perhaps not! Anyway, instead just connect the BS9000’s variable Powerlink output to the BT transmitter, and connect the fixed output (from the adaptor) to the Moment’s line-in.

                          With the above solution I would not be able to pass to the Moment either the BS9000 or the Beogram6500, right?
                          The level is very important and it is good that it was mentioned here

                          #51923
                          eprokos
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                            I am looking forward to learn how that will work on a daily basis. So, please post the results here. MM

                            Me too, cant wait to find a solution too and use it on daily basis.
                            Of course I will share the results

                            #51924
                            eprokos
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                              With the following connection diagram:

                              Beogram 9000 ———> AUX (BS9000)

                              BS90000 (powerlink) —–>splitter —A—–> Moment

                              splitter—B—> BT transmitter

                              the BS9000 can control only the volume of the cd’s not the volume of the Aux?

                              thank you

                               

                              #51920
                              Guy
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                                I was thinking that the headphones would be able to control the volume output of the BT transmitter. Perhaps not!

                                Anyway, instead just connect the BS9000’s variable Powerlink output to the BT transmitter, and connect the fixed output (from the adaptor) to the Moment’s line-in.

                                #51921
                                Millemissen
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                                  I am looking forward to learn how that will work on a daily basis.
                                  So, please post the results here.

                                  MM

                                  #51925
                                  Guy
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                                    With the following connection diagram:

                                    Beogram 9000 ———> AUX (BS9000)

                                    BS90000 (powerlink) —–>splitter —A—–> Moment

                                    splitter—B—> BT transmitter

                                    the BS9000 can control only the volume of the cd’s not the volume of the Aux?

                                    thank you

                                    The BS9000 will control both the volume of the CD and the volume of the Aux.

                                    However, with this arrangement you have two devices sharing (via the splitter) an identical PL output, hence the inputs of the Moment and BT transmitter are effectively connected in parallel and this may cause interference and/or interfere with the output levels.

                                    EDIT: This thread really needs Steve to comment on the best solution/workaround! I’ll send him a PM.

                                    #51926
                                    Guy
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                                      Guy wrote:
                                      I was thinking that the headphones would be able to control the volume output of the BT transmitter. Perhaps not! Anyway, instead just connect the BS9000’s variable Powerlink output to the BT transmitter, and connect the fixed output (from the adaptor) to the Moment’s line-in.

                                      With the above solution I would not be able to pass to the Moment either the BS9000 or the Beogram6500, right?
                                      The level is very important and it is good that it was mentioned here

                                      My amended solution would pass both BS9000 and BG6500 to the moment. The AUX socket is not just an input – it also works as a continuous line level output of whatever source is playing on the BS9000.

                                      #51927
                                      eprokos
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                                        Guy wrote: I was thinking that the headphones would be able to control the volume output of the BT transmitter. Perhaps not! Anyway, instead just connect the BS9000’s variable Powerlink output to the BT transmitter, and connect the fixed output (from the adaptor) to the Moment’s line-in. With the above solution I would not be able to pass to the Moment either the BS9000 or the Beogram6500, right? The level is very important and it is good that it was mentioned here

                                        My amended solution would pass both BS9000 and BG6500 to the moment. The AUX socket is not just an input – it also works as a continuous line level output of whatever source is playing on the BS9000.

                                        What do you mean pass both the BS9000 and BG65000 to the moment? how can I do this? and how I can the stream to Bt transmitter?

                                        #51928
                                        Guy
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                                          What do you mean pass both the BS9000 and BG65000 to the moment? how can I do this?

                                          I was answering your question using similar terminology! Perhaps I should have said that my amended solution would pass either BS9000 or BG6500 to the Moment (depending on what source you select on the BS9000, CD or AUX).

                                          and how I can the stream to Bt transmitter?

                                          From the variable Powerlink output, in this amended solution.

                                          #51929
                                          eprokos
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                                            What do you mean pass both the BS9000 and BG65000 to the moment? how can I do this?

                                            I was answering your question using similar terminology! Perhaps I should have said that my amended solution would pass either BS9000 or BG6500 to the Moment (depending on what source you select on the BS9000, CD or AUX).

                                            and how I can the stream to Bt transmitter?

                                            From the variable Powerlink output, in this amended solution.

                                            so you mean this:

                                            Beogram 9000 ———> AUX (BS9000)

                                            BS90000 (powerlink) —–> splitter —A—–> Moment

                                            BS90000 (powerlink) —-> splitter—B—> BT transmitter

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