BeoVision 7-40 LED – t-con board ohne Versorgungsspannung

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  • #36156
    Tabloka
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      Inzwischen habe ich so ziemlich alles durchgeprüft, was zu prüfen ist. Wer kann mit sagen, wie die Versorgungsspannung des t-con boards beeinflusst wird. Alle 12V Spannungen vom Power Supply (04) zum AVS (14) sind vorhanden. Die 6V_BUS und die 5V_SB sind ebenfalls da. Auf MAINS_FAIL und PS_ON messe ich ebenfalls Spannungen. Was muss hier anstehen, wenn überhaupt?

      Dann geht es weiter vom AVS (14) zum PIM (03). Auch hier sind die 12V Spannungen vorhanden. Auch die MAINS_FAIL ist hier zu messen.

      Vom PIM (03) soll es dann zum zum LCD PANEL (t-con) über den Stecker P20 gehen. An den PIN 47-51 sind aber KEINE 12V vorhanden. Das PIM (03) wurde bei B&O schon ausgetauscht, brachte jedoch keinen Erfolg!

      Jemand einen Tipp?

      #36158
      jvezina
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        I will answer in English

        First, find the LCD panel model on the sticker. Then, do a search on the Internet to find if a replacement T-CON board can be found for that model.

        Repairs at the component level on this board are difficult without a schematic if the damaged part can’t be identified visually.

        Good luck.

         

        #36157
        Tabloka
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          Hier einmal ein kleiner Nachtrag:

          Inzwischen bin ich dem Fehler auf der Spur. Nach Lösen des LVDS Kabels vom t-con board, stellte ich einen Kurzschluss auf dem t-con board am Eingang fest. Als Übeltäter war ein SMD Kondensator (C10) für den Kurzschluss verantwortlich. Nach Wechsel des Kondensators war der Kurzschluss weg und die Versorgungsspannung von 12V DC konnten am Eingang gemessen werden. Im t-con board war wieder Leben zu spüren.

          Als Erfolg dieser ERSTEN Reparatur konnte ich die fehlenden Spannungen auf den anderen PCBs messen. Auch die 24V DC auf dem Power Supply sind nun da! Das Backlight ist auch wieder vorhanden.

          Dies ist ein riesiger Schritt in die richtige Richtung. Nun das Bild wird noch nicht angezeigt. Vermutlich ist noch ein weiterer Fehler auf dem t-con board.

          Ich packe mal ein Bild von meinem t-con board hier rein. Vielleicht hat ja nun einer von euch einen Tipp, wo es weiter gehen soll.

          #36159
          Tabloka
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            … Repairs at the component level on this board are difficult without a schematic …

            … but it is not impossible. As I wrote in my last message, I found the bad cap and replaced it. And … THAT WAS THE FAILURE!!! The TV works very well again. Last night my wife and I tested the TV without any problems.

            I found no sticker on the LCD panel but now it is possible to read all the information out of the service menues. The SAMSUNG LCD panel has the product no. LTA400HL11 and is the type LCD-40 HL-11. The t-con board has the SW version 20111013-011353 and the HW version 5130F52A.

            If anybody can say what cap has to be the C10 please let me now.

            #36160
            Loudspeaker
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              very interesting findings! Well done!

              I have a BeoVision 7-40 MK6 (Type 7741) as well with exacly the same fault, so I will try to dismantle it at some point and hopefully be able to repair it as well.

              So as I understand it, there was no additional fault after all? But you are missing the correct value of the faulty capacitor?

              /Dennis

              #36161
              Tabloka
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                Hello Dennis,

                correct! No additional fault but I have no information about the faulty cap. When I see it correctely the cap works parallel with another cap against GND and is in line with a coil. So it is only a filter.

                If you have the same problem with your MK6 unplug the LVDS cable and check if there is a short in the supply chain. If you find 0 ohms between the fuse and GND then it could be the same problem as mine.

                Good luck.

                #36162
                jvezina
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                  Congratulations!

                  It is a good thing that we are able to repair our TVs even if they are “officially” too old. Having to discard an expensive and beautiful TV because of a small capacitor is ridiculous.

                  To find the exact capacitance of the cap, the only way would be to remove it on a working board, measure it, and put in back in place. Perhaps also there is a schematic of the T-CON board somewhere.

                   

                   

                  #36163
                  Tabloka
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                    To find the exact capacitance of the cap, the only way would be to remove it on a working board, measure it, and put in back in place. Perhaps also there is a schematic of the T-CON board somewhere.

                    So it is! But the problem is that to remove a working t-con board from the BV is too time-consuming and I think that nobody “destroy” a good BV7-40 only to get the value of this tiny capacitor. If anybody owns a working t-con board for the BV7-40 MK6 and want to sell it … here is your buyer!

                    I tried all to get the schematic of the t-con board but without success. I wrote an email to SAMSUNG with the result that they said, ‘It’s a B&O and therefore we have no schematics or manuals for the panel or t-con or LED driver’.

                    The answer from B&O is, ‘We don’t give any documents to end customers and by the way it’s a SAMUNG device’.

                    It is really frustrating to deal with such arguments. Maybe some day WE – and of course the manufactures – realize that we have to get rid of the “throwaway society”.

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