Beomaster 4400 faulty issue

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  • #46291
    Dillen
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      Cracked solder joints near the relay?

      Martin

      #46290
      traverso
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        Hello,

        I have here a Beomaster 4400 recently acquired, the project is to change the caps soon.

        However before starting this I like to correct the following issue.

        When switching on, I can have:

        • either a proper working of the unit, the sound is coming immediately, no delay
        • or no sound coming at all but a big bump, the + and – 35 V are not applied

        I have been looking to the fault switch and changing the TR15, TR16 and IC3 no effect.

        Any other track you could indicate will be welcome

        Alain

        #46294
        chartz
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          No you can’t. The thump is normal.

          Mine has done that every day for almost ten years. Many amps have a speaker switching relay to avoid it. To reduce it, you may try new power supply capacitors, but it will still be there.

          If the problem magically disappeared it may come back, so beware.

          Jacques

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          chartz
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            Hi,

            Also check the transistors in the output stages, especially drivers and pre drivers. They can be intermittent.

            #46293
            traverso
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              Thanks for your feedbacks

              I will look at it accordingly, since then the situation changed and now when switching on a big bump occurs immediately and the unit is working

              I rememeber the previous 4400 I repaired there was a 2 to 3 seconds delay before the unit started, this one no delay, can we adjust this and how?

              Many thanks

              Alain

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              traverso
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                OK thank you Jacques

                #46296
                traverso
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                  Hello,

                  I have here a new behavior of my 4400 unit I dont know how to correct.

                  When switching from an FM selection to Tape 1 or 2, or Phono, the display related to FM stereo lamp and tuning indicator remains lit for sometimes up to 10 seconds and then disappear.

                  It does not affect the sound and functioning . The 15V still there during this time, how to corect this ? Is TR1 involved and how?

                   

                  Alain

                   

                  #46297
                  traverso
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                    Hello

                    After checking some parts ofthe 4400, it appears that one end of the P6 pot for adjusting the channel number 6 is left open when it should be grounded. To be corrected of course. Hopefully can be done without difficulties.

                    Cheers

                     

                    Alain

                    #46298
                    traverso
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                      actually it was one leg of the P6 switch to be grounded, stangely it was not.

                      If left open the front end is missing the voltage for the varicaps and it is free running

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