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- 8 September 2023 at 01:06 #48729
I love them, but why on earth would you provide an analogue line-in using a USB socket?
What next? Mains in via an 8 pin DIN socket?!
8 September 2023 at 01:17 #48730”AdamS wrote:
I love them, but why on earth would you provide an analogue line-in using a USB socket? What next? Mains in via an 8 pin DIN socket?!”i agree but that’s how it is in the Theatre. So I had to buy the cheap looking adapter which I quickly dumped and now have line in from a pre-amp to an M3 then multiroom to the Theatre and BL3s.
8 September 2023 at 02:14 #48721I am making a prediction that one of the new products slated over the next 12months will be a Beolink Converter device which will overcome legacy Mozart products which can’t join as a slave Beolab to another Beosound or Beovision
Agree….. and I think I know it’s name. But like Voldemort’s name, not to be pronounced. 🙂
8 September 2023 at 02:21 #48722Beolab 8 does more than adapt to your room. It adapts to you. Using ultra- wideband technology, it directs the acoustic sweetspot to wherever you are. As long as your phone is on you, the sound is too. No need to readjust your speaker, or your room. *Fluid Sweet Spot only works when using Beolab 8 in a stereo setup with Apple iPhone (Apple iPhone 11 or newer).
This sounds very impressive.
8 September 2023 at 03:02 #48723I like the look of these very much. Not too interested in the top controls if you had a pair or full surround but that’s how Mozart goes I guess. For a pair, the cloth version is around ok but those frets, super pricey. Although, they kind of make the price I paid for the Theatre last Nov a bargain as a pair with frets is not far off.
8 September 2023 at 03:07 #48731I love them, but why on earth would you provide an analogue line-in using a USB socket? What next? Mains in via an 8 pin DIN socket?!
Is there an advantage to this that I don’t see? Does USB C need less space than a 3.5mm jack and space is the issue? In order to connect my turntable to the Theatre I need that USB dongle which has caused issues in the past. I need to occasionally “re-seat” the connections in order for it to work properly. I wish I could just plug my phono cable’s 3.5mm jack directly into the Theatre.
8 September 2023 at 03:33 #48724Then again, maybe not, since they don’t have an analog line-in for my turntable.
To be clear, the USB-C input is analogue (if it’s anything like Theatre, new Beosound 2 and A9). It just needs a 3.5mm aux-in to USB-C adapter, but it’s a “dumb” “passthrough” adapter, just a matter of wiring the wires to the new connector form factor (USB-C).
It’s not like Beosound A1 or Explore, which support/require a source outputting USB-C digital audio.
Edit: as noted below by others, A5 actually is like A1/Explore and unlike the rest of other recent Mozart products, i.e. it’s not analogue but rather uses USB-C digital audio.
I like the look of these very much. Not too interested in the top controls if you had a pair or full surround but that’s how Mozart goes I guess.
I assumed that the top controls are disabled (by just switching off the backlight) in case the speakers are used as part of a surround setup. Or that they would always be hidden unless you get closer to the unit, at which point they’d light up.
But not sure if this is actually the case.
8 September 2023 at 04:01 #48725Where is the woofer in this? Is it inside firing up?
8 September 2023 at 04:17 #48732Sonos have done the same on their latest speakers too – not sure if there is some industry wide thing going on to prompt numerous manufacturers down this route.
8 September 2023 at 04:25 #48733I think its something to do with the name…….”USB”. Something universal about it so it can do many things in different ways. That is unless you need it to do something to an Apple device that is
8 September 2023 at 04:47 #48734If it is becoming a standard then maybe I will be able to find a good rca to usb c interconnect cable so I don’t need that dongle.
8 September 2023 at 06:08 #48735Nice little speaker. It seems that the ‘Bang & Olufsen’ logo is lit when turned on. Like it!
Could it be a render error? In any event, I would hope that in configuration this could be disabled.
Call me a fossil, if you will, but I loved the old green light/red light signifiers.
8 September 2023 at 07:21 #48736In a way…..and this is my bad…..the BL8s are a lot bigger than I imagined based on the initial perception from the press photos. I had a quarter-sized BL6000 in my minds eye. The dimensions state the truth but real life gives it context I guess?
8 September 2023 at 08:02 #487268 September 2023 at 09:11 #48737Thanks!
Interesting to see the various mounting/placement options.
MM
8 September 2023 at 09:23 #48727Then again, maybe not, since they don’t have an analog line-in for my turntable.
To be clear, the USB-C input is analogue (if it’s anything like Theatre, new Beosound 2 and A9). It just needs a 3.5mm aux-in to USB-C adapter, but it’s a “dumb” “passthrough” adapter, just a matter of wiring the wires to the new connector form factor (USB-C). It’s not like Beosound A1 or Explore, which support/require a source outputting USB-C digital audio.
If it’s like the new A5, the line-in function is not working. My dealer told me it was when I bought it, and I used a USB-C adapter, but this function was removed from B&O before release.
So I won’t bet on that it has a Line-in..
8 September 2023 at 09:57 #48738I haven’t had the chance to explore the details of the legacy Powerlink integration. Will it offer compatibility with older Hi-Fi systems, like the Beosystem 6500, allowing control of CD, Radio, and Vinyl through the remote app? Additionally, will it enable music streaming to other wireless speakers? If anyone comes across information on these different scenarios, please share it with us. Thanks.
8 September 2023 at 10:47 #48728Hi,
To clarify, Beosound A5 never had an analogue line input, it only accepts a digital connection to a USB master device (eg a computer), as well as using this socket for charging. This is the same as with Explore and A1.
Beolab 8 is reported as having an analogue line input via the USB-C socket, as with Theatre and the latest Mozart equipped A9 and Beosound 2.
Beolab 8 also has an RJ45 Powerlink input for low latency connection to any B&O TV or AV receiver (via the correct cables of course!)
Kind regards Steve.
9 September 2023 at 03:29 #48745As someone who has a 65 G3 Theatre with 6 x BL17s and a BL19, whilst imo the BL8 are a natural successor to my BL17 they are too much money for me to swap out my 3 sets of BL17s for what I will get in return. As arguably the swap will be governed by the law of decreasing returns in what new sound detail, clarity, emotion I hear and feel.
Were I starting again Yes, highly likely I would not get a BL19 and buy a set of BL28 and 2 other sets of BL8s with the Theatre. But the price gap is too wide. Especially with the recent increase to the Theatre. I am just glad I was an early adopter almost 1 year ago. I will say my best decision was changing the G2 to a G3, it did cost me £2,300 to part exchange back with my dealer but imo worth it when the G3 was released.
My concern and rhetorical question is B&O leadership forgetting their own marketing… the cleverness of the Theatre to bring alive older BeoLabs was a big selling point, as well as sharing the bass across all speakers.
I suspect many existing customers were hoping for Atmos speakers for the height channels with the same specs as the Theatre as the up and side firing in the sound bar are good just not BeoLab good; and these BL8 are on the tech specs too good and too pricy for the occasional sound of church bells in James Bond. [side note the clip played in the dealers & on the YouTube video above is not an Atmos track, the bullets do not come from the correct location because it is a 5.1 DD track… check the dealerships app next time you demo any of their clips, it will not say Atmos… it sounds much more expansive when the same clip is played off Apple TV or UHD Blu-ray with the same setup).
Last thought… I am not an UHNW target market customer, but I do sit in the Top 3% on salary in the UK, and I have spent close to £50k in 8 years with my dealer being an early adopter or put it another way spending £500 a month every month for the previous 84 months! Explain that to your family, £500 a month is on par with average car payments or interest only mortgage payments before inflation. It grieves me as a customer who has upgraded from an Avant to Eclipse Gen1 to Eclipse Gen2 to Theatre. But with the BL8s sorry B&O leadership whilst your designers are on fire with outstanding speakers you have imo missed the mark on the feedback provided from customers like me who cannot justify to keep on upgrading when something new is released when what I have is damn fine! Plus my wife would say since moving to B&O TVs we have had 4 sets in 8 years two broke (red screen) and the Pioneer Kuro plasma we had before lasted 10 years.
9 September 2023 at 04:15 #48746So how will the touch panels on the BL8 work if it is hooked up to a system like the theatre. Will hitting PLAY cause the whole 5.1 system to play (hopefully) or will the 2 BL8 speakers just play independently (God I hope not)?
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