Beogram 4002, clack, scratch sound

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  • #48789
    Renfield
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      Hello everyone ,

      I have a Beogram 4002 in very good condition, all the meckanic parts work perfectly and the sound reproduction is brilliant!

      Unfortunately a clack, scratch sound ramdomly comes back at least once every LP side.

      As amplifier I use a Beomaster 4400 which otherwise works perfectly both with my Tape cassette deck and for playing from my computer. (tape 1 and 2)

      Has anyone heard about this problem?

      Kindest regards

      Mats

       

      #48790
      Mark-sf
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        While I have not heard of this issue, there are some questions that can narrow it down.

        1. Does the sound occur only on one channel?
        2. Does the sound vary with volume; for example, if the volume is turned way down is the sound soft?
        3. Does it occur at the same position on the record or randomly?
        4. Are you using the DIN or RCA jacks?
        5. Have you tried cleaning or replacing the two trimmers R112/212?
        #48795
        Dillen
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          Can you hear the sounds also if you play a record with the Beomaster turned off or its volume at zero?

          Martin

          #48791
          Dillen
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            Is the clack and scratch sound coming out of the speakers or from the Beogram?

            Martin

            #48796
            Mark-sf
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              Reply to Mark-sf On 1, 2, No! 3. Randomly 4. I’m using DIN, that’s what my my Beomaster 4400 has 5. What is R112/212? Kindest regards Mats

              Mats, For the sound to come from both your speakers but not be controlled by your volume control is highly unusual and could only occur if the act of playing a record was injecting/disturbing the power amp section of your 4400 directly. I would ask that you try playing a few records with the volume full down and then trying again with the DIN cable unplugged and report your results.

              As to R112/212 there are adjustable resisters (trimmers) that are accessed via a screwdriver through the bottom labeled Phono L & R.

              #48797
              Renfield
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                I will try that.

                I get back to you soon.

                Kindest

                Mats

                #48798
                Renfield
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                  No, then I don’t hear anything.

                  Kindest

                  Mats

                  #48799
                  Renfield
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                    Hello,

                    Only when I listen to the Beogram 4002.

                    Kindest regards

                    Mats

                    #48800
                    Renfield
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                      I will try that, thanks for the suggestions. I will get back to you when I have tried them.

                      Kindest regards

                      Mats

                      #48792
                      Renfield
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                        Hello,

                        I don’t know, the only thing I’m sure of is that I do not hear te sound when I play anything else than the Beogram 4002.

                         

                        Kindest

                        Mats

                        #48793
                        Renfield
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                          Reply to Mark-sf

                          On 1, 2, No!

                          3. Randomly

                          4. I’m using DIN, that’s what my my Beomaster 4400 has

                          5. What is R112/212?

                          Kindest regards

                          Mats

                          #48794
                          Renfield
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                            Could it be the DIN contact on the Beomaster 4000?

                             

                            Kindest regards

                             

                            Mats

                            #48802
                            Dillen
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                              Could it be a static discharge from the record/platter/surround?
                              Has the platter been cleaned with anything other than a soft cloth?

                              Martin

                              #48803
                              Renfield
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                                Hello Martin,

                                How should I clean the platter?

                                Kindest regards

                                Mats

                                #48804
                                Renfield
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                                  Should I only use a soft cloth then, any specific cloth?

                                  Kindest regards

                                  Mats

                                  #48805
                                  Renfield
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                                    specific material I meant 😉

                                    Mats

                                    #48801
                                    Renfield
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                                      No,

                                      Kindest

                                      Mats

                                      #48807
                                      Renfield
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                                        Great thanks,

                                        I will follow your instructions.

                                        I get back to you later on.

                                        Kindest regards

                                        Mats

                                        #48808
                                        matador
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                                          In severe cases you can see “lightning”-type sparks from the record to surrounding chassis metal in a dark room.

                                          Please Dillen, be gentle with new members. You don’t have to be “that” scary, Freddy-len!
                                          😉

                                          #48806
                                          Dillen
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                                            You don’t have to clean the platter now.
                                            It’s just that, if the platter was cleaned at some point, its coating may have been damaged.
                                            Many owners, – particularly of the type 59xx decks, wash their platters or use
                                            solvent-based cleaning products to make the platter shiny.
                                            It may look nice, but the coating has then been washed away and the platters static discharging properties will have been ruined.
                                            This will cause problems with static electricity, that charges up on the record from airs friction. In severe cases you can see “lightning”-type sparks from the record to surrounding chassis metal in a dark room.
                                            The platter should not be shiny. Cleaning should only be done with a soft cloth

                                            Martin

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