Beocord 8004. Playback only short time..

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  • #47270
    Dillen
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      A capacitor problem, perhaps.
      Check the 7Vref to the Dolby ICs.
      Does the VUs still deflect or will they fall to zero as sound disappears?

      Martin

      #47269
      jbh2
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        Hi all.

        Got new belts, good cleaning and new LEDs in display. Very small LEDs.
        When playback it only play for approx. 1 sek, then no sound at all in both channels.
        Then REWIND for 3-4 seconds and then it can play again but only 1 sek.

        Tried other tapes, same result.

        Record is OK.

        Any hints ?

        Br Jens

        #47272
        Dillen
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          Sounds like a mechanical problem, – misaligned tapeheads or something bent in the tape path.
          Is the tape running off the head?

          Martin

          #47271
          jbh2
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            Hi Martin.

            I will check the 7v ref. But Dolby is OFF.
            Yes the VU follow the sound.

            If I gently touch the pins on tapehead, L and R, with my screwdriver I get 50 Hz hum i both.
            Very clear, steady and strong signal. No dropout in hum.

            #47274
            Dillen
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              Did you check the 7Vref?
              It’s not important if Dolby is in or out. The signal runs through parts of the Dolby ICs regardless.

              Martin

              #47273
              jbh2
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                The Recording is OK. Only one head. Tape is running perfect on head. Only Playback problem..

                #47275
                jbh2
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                  No time yet, but will do it soon. Thanks again for fine info,

                  #47277
                  Dillen
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                    So…

                    Sound drops out after a few seconds, and VU-meters follow?
                    The tape keeps running?
                    Both tape reels are rotating?
                    And if you touch the tapehead solder tags you get a buzz from the speakers and deflection on the VU-meter?

                    Sure the tape has a good recording on it?

                    Martin

                    #47276
                    jbh2
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                      Result of checking the 7 volt. Both L and R were 6,89 Volt and the 14 volt is 13,8 Volt.

                      So I think thats fine. But again, with 50 hz hum on the tapehead, I get fine signal in both channels as long as I will.
                      Is it possible to connect a sinus signal from a tonegenerator at the tapehead. (input on playback amplifier)

                      Or do you have any other suggestions I would be happy ?

                      Thanks again Martin.

                       

                      #47278
                      jbh2
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                        yes to all.
                        I will try to find another tape, and also have another tapedeck (working) and will make a new recording on that.

                        Will a bad/very old tape have that performance, sounds OK a short time, then silence. ?

                        #47279
                        jbh2
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                          Finally, its a winner, thanks to you Martin.

                          I got the HK2500 tapedeck up and running. Just new belts then OK. Then I tried my testtape in it, and the tape was full of dropouts, and very bad overall.
                          Then tested a lot of my old tapes and most of them had dropouts.
                          (Old tapes loose their megnetism)
                          But found 2 good ones (99 % good) and gave them to B&O 8004.
                          Holy moses, it worked. ! Both channels, VU, dolby in/out, timerdisplay. All fine.

                          (until now, maybe some details isnt working, but so far so good)

                          So you were right Martin and I was getting “blind” and forgot the testtape, and only focused on the 8004.
                          Thanks for keeping your interest and continued help. Very grateful and happy.

                           

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